Dec 29, 2022·edited Dec 29, 2022Liked by Tereza Coraggio
No doubt, the Roman Empire hijacked the Christian church that formed around the legacy of the Mediterranean master Jeshua, who neither founded a church nor even left writings. It was Paul, more than any other, who created the original Christian church, but he never met Jeshua. The hijacked version, the Church of Rome, distorted but did not eradicate Jeshua's message and example; distorted truth is often more effective propaganda than outright falsity.
As with all information that comes through our physical senses, the burden is upon us to separate the wheat from the chaff. In the case of "Jesus" we have the following chain of custody: objective truth -> Jeshua's description of the truth as he experienced it, tailored for his contemporary audience -> Paul's interpretation of Jeshua's description -> Rome's deliberate distortion of Paul's interpretation in support of empire -> scholars' analysis of Rome's distortions -> Tereza's understanding of scholar's analysis -> Substack reader's comprehension of Tereza's writings.
But Jeshua said, "the kingdom of God is within you," and "you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." meaning, among other things, that you have direct access to the objective truth, through other than your physical senses. Messages and examples of masters may inspire one to seek truth, but second-hand (much less sixth-hand) knowledge is no substitute for direct experience. Of Jeshua's many teachings, this at least has survived undistorted, which you can confirm for yourself, as many have.
I share Naomi's love of "Little Drummer Boy." It has always been my favorite Christmas song. Perhaps she feels as I do a love for the Rabbi Jeshua because he, who could have been an earthly king at the behest of the Zealots, instead ministered to the sick and hungry and washed the feet of his followers, even Judas. He took the side of the poor, the infirm, the outcast. He rebelled against what he saw as the greatest institutional impediment to his people's spiritual sovereignty: the Pharisees, the Scribes, the Sadducees. In comparison, he discounted the earthly power of the Roman Empire; they were no threat to any who attained spiritual sovereignty. "Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.”
I love this stuff Tereza, even though the nature of the possible deception at play is quite dark and disturbing, and i'm glad I have found a fellow Wholesome Bible Conspirator: you have clearly been at this longer than I have, and I very much come at it from an outsiders perspective in being raised fundamentally anti-religious and anti-Christianity.
The more I learn about the Good Book, the more it seems founded in inversion - profound truths packaged and delivered for the end result of serving and reinforcing power - so this political bait and switch definitely rings true. The most blatant red flag for me was when I learned that the dude's (if he did exist) name wasn't even Jesus, and that "J" doesn't even appear in the Hebrew language.
Not sure if this fits into the broader thesis you are discussing here, but a popular Gnostic-leaning YouTuber who I have been following for a while (who has some eye-wateringly spicy takes on the true nature of The Bible) makes the convincing case that the Jesus story and The Gospels in general are appropriated from the Gospel of Marcion: https://youtu.be/pzwqSPWKcOA
The spiciest spiritual take I have seen is that Jesus/Yeshua is actually a slight watering down of the Lucifer/Prometheus archetype: the original wronged one, the serpent in the garden, who was merely trying to free humanity from its oppressive spiritual overlords (we might interpret this materially as the church, clergy etc, or spiritually as the Archons/Demiurge) and was sacrificed to them for his efforts. So: Christianity is essentially, from an archetypal perspective, the cult of Lucifer: which would explain much about the psychopathically freedom-orientated, self-obsessed and "merit"-based imperialistic culture of the West and the US in particular (he/she is right there in The Statue of Liberty, after all).
Now that The Coronaspiracy and its position within the broader Germ Conspiracy is winding down (for the time being, until pandemics become wholly removed from nature and completely simulated in the metaverse) The Bible Conspiracy feels like the most urgent wombat hole to be explored. I have written a few different articles from different angles about how The Bible appears to have been manipulated in order to manipulate - this is one of my oldest one's that I just republished that, as promised, contains a wholesome wombat video at the end: https://downthewombathole.substack.com/p/a-biblical-case-of-lost-in-translation
More recently, I have been trying to point people towards the OT concepts of the Shemitah/Shmita and Jubilee, and how they provide an almost perfect framework within which to understand the current economic and social disruption we are passing through: we are likely halfway through Jubilee, and we can expect a ramping up of chaos before our current 50 year cycle ends around September: https://downthewombathole.substack.com/p/the-shemitah-the-jubilee-and-whats
It describes a righteous man named Yesus (also known as Buda) who went to the East and studied there for years, then returned and did all sorts of great deeds.
You'll also probably enjoy reading Mauro Biglino (many interviews w/him on Youtube).
Tereza - I both love this post and it makes my head spin. My friend and I have commented all through the pandemic that we feel rather 'lucky' that we can see the manipulation and lies - but what else are we missing? What other lies are we buying? We, like you, come back to being no different than those around me, that I am not special or unique in cutting through the bs, we just have backgrounds that gave us a leg up this time around.
This revealing of "Jesus" and the Bible and seeing it as bits put together for manipulation and power purposes - it is not surprising, but it boggles me. My whole family is built upon religion. In my ring of aunts and uncles I count 8 religious professionals - pastors, missionaries, chaplain, and professor. And pastors line the way in the paternal ancestors for all the generations that I know. So I feel protestant religion thickly, even though its been a long time since I identified as a Christian. I guess what boggles me is - are all these religious professionals working for a lie???? I've only recently come to place of finally releasing a lot of old anger at the church and religious people, and figured I could glean the goodness from the original intents and original message that Jesus was living. Is there anything useful in the Bible? Or is it all distorted, now knowing it's origins of manipulation and control?
Very interesting stuff, thanks. I should try to find Joe Atwill's book.
Although I was raised as an Episcopalian, went to an Episcopal grade school, and probably went to church a thousand times, the religion never really "took" in me, and I remained an agnostic. So I'm quite ignorant about biblical scholarship. The only reading I've done on this subject is "The Lost Gospel: The Book of Q and Christian Origins", by Burton Mack. If I remember correctly, the idea there was that scholars have used textual analysis to show that there was a lost proto-Gospel that preceded the canonical Gospels, which they call Q. This was a "sayings" Gospel, that had none of the familiar stories of Jesus' divinity, miracles, etc. Q shows Jesus to be a kind of itinerant philosopher in the Stoic tradition. If you've read this book, can you say whether this fits in with what you're saying about the Gospels?
Fits with my own biases that we as humans became entranced with some idea we could be better off and oh so superior to our fellow animals thousands of years ago. Everything since has been a long slow fall from Grace. Buying into some hucksters dream of paradise in a series of psyops. I see them everywhere. They permeate our literature, art, science, architecture. I physically recoil from their existence whenever and wherever I encounter them. Thanks for this particular synthesis. Reminds me of the Dylan line:
“Nobody has to guess that baby can’t be blessed ‘til she sees finally that she’s like all the rest.”
Well first off in defence of Naomi (as if she would need that, lol).
My interpretation of 'I am a poor boy' is : I may be a mentally well exercised person, my emotional side is hardly developed and definetly not integrated 'to be in the moment' in an authentic way.
So in that sense I am a poor boy, but i am well aware of that :).
Writing a book and publicize it in a totaliterian regime requires not courage, it requires cunning.
Knowing the near future makes that the wordings are veiled. What better way to publish and get it distrubuted by the very opponent : do some clever ass-kissing and lay it on !
Make it a manual that needs a person in the know to show how to really interpret it.
And that resulted in the best published work in millenia : the Bible !
Now i am off perusing the rest of this well filled article.
Really enjoyed the article Tereza. Your experience with the book "Caesar’s Messiah" reminds me of my experience in a very conservative Baptist Seminary back in the early 80s. I can see myself throwing a book like that across the room too but, later going back and taking another look. Actually, reading other (not approved) books gave me a different view or, at the very least, it opened my mind to other possibilities. But, I was in the minority. Everyone there followed the conservative line, except me. While in school I eventually came to realize I wasn't the genius I thought I was but, I also realized that my teachers and my fellow students were locked in their dogma and not letting up. Their 'dogma' shown much brighter than mine. Just so you know, I was a devout Christian before my 'education'. After graduation I don't think I ever set foot in another church except for weddings and funerals. If Jesus is real and He wants to help me believe, all He has to do is appear to me like he did Thomas. Thomas was close to Jesus and still didn't believe. He had to be shown. To me, and evidently Thomas, it definitely takes more than 'faith' to believe the story of the resurrection. I personally need more proof rather than an unverified story about it. You definitely shed light on the story today.
On another note: Looks like someone else inquired about "Jesus: Rebel or Imperialist?" just a few weeks ago. I also see that you haven't found and posted it yet. Please try again. I know you're a busy lady and it may be time for you to enlist a helper. Thanks so much for sharing your mind with the world. Can't speak for others but I'm impressed. Guess it's time for me to upgrade so you can get the help you desperately need.
Tereza, many thanks for giving me the opportunity to read this post. It’s really interesting!
As you know, I’m no scholar and haven’t studied religious matters as deeply as you have. However, having done a little reading of different sources, I would offer the following: I don’t think the Romans quite invented Jesus. I think they reinvented him and subverted/reinvented his teachings to create a control and harvesting mechanism that met their political objectives, to serve the empire.
I don’t think the Flavians “created Christianity” either. What they created was The Church of Rome. The British Apostolic Church had already been founded by Joseph of Arimathea (Saint Ilid) in AD 37, decades before “Christianity” arrived in Rome, and more than five centuries before The Vatican sent Augustine to convert the British to The Church of Rome.
Constantine The Great was himself raised in the British Apostolic Church. His mother was the British Empress, Saint Helen of The Cross. Constantine understood the church and the power it had.
I tried to read your article “Jesus: Rebel or Imperialist” but the link appears to be broken.
I don’t think that you and I disagree about very much. The conclusions I have come to are that The Church of Rome is a political institution masquerading as a church, and the New Testament is political propaganda interwoven with religious teachings.
This is such a worthy topic to write about as it has had immeasurable impact over the past 2000 years. I might have to read this book one day! Thank you.
No doubt, the Roman Empire hijacked the Christian church that formed around the legacy of the Mediterranean master Jeshua, who neither founded a church nor even left writings. It was Paul, more than any other, who created the original Christian church, but he never met Jeshua. The hijacked version, the Church of Rome, distorted but did not eradicate Jeshua's message and example; distorted truth is often more effective propaganda than outright falsity.
As with all information that comes through our physical senses, the burden is upon us to separate the wheat from the chaff. In the case of "Jesus" we have the following chain of custody: objective truth -> Jeshua's description of the truth as he experienced it, tailored for his contemporary audience -> Paul's interpretation of Jeshua's description -> Rome's deliberate distortion of Paul's interpretation in support of empire -> scholars' analysis of Rome's distortions -> Tereza's understanding of scholar's analysis -> Substack reader's comprehension of Tereza's writings.
But Jeshua said, "the kingdom of God is within you," and "you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." meaning, among other things, that you have direct access to the objective truth, through other than your physical senses. Messages and examples of masters may inspire one to seek truth, but second-hand (much less sixth-hand) knowledge is no substitute for direct experience. Of Jeshua's many teachings, this at least has survived undistorted, which you can confirm for yourself, as many have.
I share Naomi's love of "Little Drummer Boy." It has always been my favorite Christmas song. Perhaps she feels as I do a love for the Rabbi Jeshua because he, who could have been an earthly king at the behest of the Zealots, instead ministered to the sick and hungry and washed the feet of his followers, even Judas. He took the side of the poor, the infirm, the outcast. He rebelled against what he saw as the greatest institutional impediment to his people's spiritual sovereignty: the Pharisees, the Scribes, the Sadducees. In comparison, he discounted the earthly power of the Roman Empire; they were no threat to any who attained spiritual sovereignty. "Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.”
I love this stuff Tereza, even though the nature of the possible deception at play is quite dark and disturbing, and i'm glad I have found a fellow Wholesome Bible Conspirator: you have clearly been at this longer than I have, and I very much come at it from an outsiders perspective in being raised fundamentally anti-religious and anti-Christianity.
The more I learn about the Good Book, the more it seems founded in inversion - profound truths packaged and delivered for the end result of serving and reinforcing power - so this political bait and switch definitely rings true. The most blatant red flag for me was when I learned that the dude's (if he did exist) name wasn't even Jesus, and that "J" doesn't even appear in the Hebrew language.
Not sure if this fits into the broader thesis you are discussing here, but a popular Gnostic-leaning YouTuber who I have been following for a while (who has some eye-wateringly spicy takes on the true nature of The Bible) makes the convincing case that the Jesus story and The Gospels in general are appropriated from the Gospel of Marcion: https://youtu.be/pzwqSPWKcOA
The spiciest spiritual take I have seen is that Jesus/Yeshua is actually a slight watering down of the Lucifer/Prometheus archetype: the original wronged one, the serpent in the garden, who was merely trying to free humanity from its oppressive spiritual overlords (we might interpret this materially as the church, clergy etc, or spiritually as the Archons/Demiurge) and was sacrificed to them for his efforts. So: Christianity is essentially, from an archetypal perspective, the cult of Lucifer: which would explain much about the psychopathically freedom-orientated, self-obsessed and "merit"-based imperialistic culture of the West and the US in particular (he/she is right there in The Statue of Liberty, after all).
Now that The Coronaspiracy and its position within the broader Germ Conspiracy is winding down (for the time being, until pandemics become wholly removed from nature and completely simulated in the metaverse) The Bible Conspiracy feels like the most urgent wombat hole to be explored. I have written a few different articles from different angles about how The Bible appears to have been manipulated in order to manipulate - this is one of my oldest one's that I just republished that, as promised, contains a wholesome wombat video at the end: https://downthewombathole.substack.com/p/a-biblical-case-of-lost-in-translation
More recently, I have been trying to point people towards the OT concepts of the Shemitah/Shmita and Jubilee, and how they provide an almost perfect framework within which to understand the current economic and social disruption we are passing through: we are likely halfway through Jubilee, and we can expect a ramping up of chaos before our current 50 year cycle ends around September: https://downthewombathole.substack.com/p/the-shemitah-the-jubilee-and-whats
Yet another look at Christianity, thank you Tereza!
You should check out the Codex Aurea Linda:
https://home.solari.com/book-review-codex-oera-linda-english-edition-translated-by-jan-ott/
https://oeralinda.org/
It describes a righteous man named Yesus (also known as Buda) who went to the East and studied there for years, then returned and did all sorts of great deeds.
You'll also probably enjoy reading Mauro Biglino (many interviews w/him on Youtube).
https://www.maurobiglino.com/en/biography/
I recommend The Naked Bible, but probably any of his books that appeal to you are good as well.
Tereza - I both love this post and it makes my head spin. My friend and I have commented all through the pandemic that we feel rather 'lucky' that we can see the manipulation and lies - but what else are we missing? What other lies are we buying? We, like you, come back to being no different than those around me, that I am not special or unique in cutting through the bs, we just have backgrounds that gave us a leg up this time around.
This revealing of "Jesus" and the Bible and seeing it as bits put together for manipulation and power purposes - it is not surprising, but it boggles me. My whole family is built upon religion. In my ring of aunts and uncles I count 8 religious professionals - pastors, missionaries, chaplain, and professor. And pastors line the way in the paternal ancestors for all the generations that I know. So I feel protestant religion thickly, even though its been a long time since I identified as a Christian. I guess what boggles me is - are all these religious professionals working for a lie???? I've only recently come to place of finally releasing a lot of old anger at the church and religious people, and figured I could glean the goodness from the original intents and original message that Jesus was living. Is there anything useful in the Bible? Or is it all distorted, now knowing it's origins of manipulation and control?
555, (thai for lol)
My new content is gone while i checked the spelling of 'miraculously'. Isn't that amazing
Very interesting stuff, thanks. I should try to find Joe Atwill's book.
Although I was raised as an Episcopalian, went to an Episcopal grade school, and probably went to church a thousand times, the religion never really "took" in me, and I remained an agnostic. So I'm quite ignorant about biblical scholarship. The only reading I've done on this subject is "The Lost Gospel: The Book of Q and Christian Origins", by Burton Mack. If I remember correctly, the idea there was that scholars have used textual analysis to show that there was a lost proto-Gospel that preceded the canonical Gospels, which they call Q. This was a "sayings" Gospel, that had none of the familiar stories of Jesus' divinity, miracles, etc. Q shows Jesus to be a kind of itinerant philosopher in the Stoic tradition. If you've read this book, can you say whether this fits in with what you're saying about the Gospels?
Super Read! Thank you. Happy New Year
Fits with my own biases that we as humans became entranced with some idea we could be better off and oh so superior to our fellow animals thousands of years ago. Everything since has been a long slow fall from Grace. Buying into some hucksters dream of paradise in a series of psyops. I see them everywhere. They permeate our literature, art, science, architecture. I physically recoil from their existence whenever and wherever I encounter them. Thanks for this particular synthesis. Reminds me of the Dylan line:
“Nobody has to guess that baby can’t be blessed ‘til she sees finally that she’s like all the rest.”
Thanks Tereza.
So much content. How to respond ?
Well first off in defence of Naomi (as if she would need that, lol).
My interpretation of 'I am a poor boy' is : I may be a mentally well exercised person, my emotional side is hardly developed and definetly not integrated 'to be in the moment' in an authentic way.
So in that sense I am a poor boy, but i am well aware of that :).
Writing a book and publicize it in a totaliterian regime requires not courage, it requires cunning.
Knowing the near future makes that the wordings are veiled. What better way to publish and get it distrubuted by the very opponent : do some clever ass-kissing and lay it on !
Make it a manual that needs a person in the know to show how to really interpret it.
And that resulted in the best published work in millenia : the Bible !
Now i am off perusing the rest of this well filled article.
God Bless !
Fascinating read! Thank you
Thanks for linking this post to my recent look at the true authorship of the New Testament. It caused a wide variety of comments and niggles..... it is not a subject that has been settled yet.... almost a year on! https://francesleader.substack.com/p/the-true-authorship-of-the-new-testament
Really enjoyed the article Tereza. Your experience with the book "Caesar’s Messiah" reminds me of my experience in a very conservative Baptist Seminary back in the early 80s. I can see myself throwing a book like that across the room too but, later going back and taking another look. Actually, reading other (not approved) books gave me a different view or, at the very least, it opened my mind to other possibilities. But, I was in the minority. Everyone there followed the conservative line, except me. While in school I eventually came to realize I wasn't the genius I thought I was but, I also realized that my teachers and my fellow students were locked in their dogma and not letting up. Their 'dogma' shown much brighter than mine. Just so you know, I was a devout Christian before my 'education'. After graduation I don't think I ever set foot in another church except for weddings and funerals. If Jesus is real and He wants to help me believe, all He has to do is appear to me like he did Thomas. Thomas was close to Jesus and still didn't believe. He had to be shown. To me, and evidently Thomas, it definitely takes more than 'faith' to believe the story of the resurrection. I personally need more proof rather than an unverified story about it. You definitely shed light on the story today.
On another note: Looks like someone else inquired about "Jesus: Rebel or Imperialist?" just a few weeks ago. I also see that you haven't found and posted it yet. Please try again. I know you're a busy lady and it may be time for you to enlist a helper. Thanks so much for sharing your mind with the world. Can't speak for others but I'm impressed. Guess it's time for me to upgrade so you can get the help you desperately need.
Tereza, many thanks for giving me the opportunity to read this post. It’s really interesting!
As you know, I’m no scholar and haven’t studied religious matters as deeply as you have. However, having done a little reading of different sources, I would offer the following: I don’t think the Romans quite invented Jesus. I think they reinvented him and subverted/reinvented his teachings to create a control and harvesting mechanism that met their political objectives, to serve the empire.
I don’t think the Flavians “created Christianity” either. What they created was The Church of Rome. The British Apostolic Church had already been founded by Joseph of Arimathea (Saint Ilid) in AD 37, decades before “Christianity” arrived in Rome, and more than five centuries before The Vatican sent Augustine to convert the British to The Church of Rome.
Constantine The Great was himself raised in the British Apostolic Church. His mother was the British Empress, Saint Helen of The Cross. Constantine understood the church and the power it had.
I tried to read your article “Jesus: Rebel or Imperialist” but the link appears to be broken.
I don’t think that you and I disagree about very much. The conclusions I have come to are that The Church of Rome is a political institution masquerading as a church, and the New Testament is political propaganda interwoven with religious teachings.
My twopenn’orth!
This is such a worthy topic to write about as it has had immeasurable impact over the past 2000 years. I might have to read this book one day! Thank you.
Here's a pretty interesting documentary tracing the roots of the stories and how uncannily similar they are to what Julius Caesar said and did.
The gospel of Caesar
https://youtu.be/gvga-98x6Nk