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Tirion's avatar

Wow - great post, Tereza! Thank you.

I find it helps a lot to make sense of how the Romans, Judeans and Ashkenazi are linked to go back to the split in The Kingdom of Israel, which took place around 930 BC, after the death of King Solomon. As you know, the Kingdom split into two parts, North and South:

The Southern Kingdom, called the Kingdom of Judah, which was comprised of the tribes of Judah and Benjamin. It contained Jerusalem and the Jewish Temple. It was ruled by the house of David until the fall of Jerusalem in 587 BC.

The Northern Kingdom, called the Kingdom of Israel, was composed of the territory of the remaining ten tribes.

The ten so-called “Lost” Tribes of Israel migrated north and west into Anatolia and the Caucasus and beyond to Western Europe.

Some of them became the Trojans and, after their defeat in The Trojan Wars, one group migrated to Etruria and went on to found Rome. A second group, led by Brutus of Troy, went to Britain, where he founded a new nation with its capital at New Troy, now known as London, around 485 BC. In both Etruria and Britain, these migrants were warmly welcomed because some of their ancestors had migrated to both places about a thousand years earlier.

The Romans and the Ancient Britons openly acknowledged their relationship.

An important new book about these migrations was published last month:

“The Great Migrations to Britain of 1527 B.C. and 485 B.C.,” by Marchell Abrahams

https://williamcongreve.co.uk/books/p3qeyjknbrkd6bmk/the-great-migrations-to-britain-of-1527-bc-and-485-bc/

As R W Morgan tells us in his “History of Britain From The Flood To AD 700” (1848): “The descent of the British People from Troy and the Trojans was never disputed for fifteen hundred years (ie, until the Hanoverian Accession). The "Island of Brutus" was the common name of the Island in old times. The word tan is the old British or Japhetic term for land,—Brutannia (pronounced Britannia, the British u being sounded as ë) is Brut's or Brutus' Land. The term is also of very ancient use in Asia, as Laristan, Feristan, Affghanistan. The only two national names acknowledged by the Ancient Britons are Kymry, and Y Lin Troia, the race of Troy.”

So, in AD 70, the Romans had a thousand-year-old axe to grind with the Judeans?

I would also mention that I have long wondered whether, when the Khazar king was forced to adopt one of the three Abrahamic religions, he chose Judaism because he knew the Khazars - or the Khazar kings at least - were descendants of the “Lost” Ten Tribes.

This is how Morgan begins the Introduction to his book (page 2) about the descendants of Gomer:

"THE history of the great Gomeric or Kimbric race constitutes the grandest drama of old or modern times. It is the primogenital family of mankind; and as such we find its various divisions established under the same or very slightly modified names in different countries in the earliest dawn of tradition and letters. Around the shores of the Black Sea, they were known as Cimmerioi; in Caucasus, Armenia and Bactria, as Gomarai; in the Baltic, Chersonese, and Scandinavia, as Cimbri; in Italy, as Chumbri or Umbri; in Britain, as the Kymry (The modern Welsh word for “Wales” is “Cymru.”) From them have sprung the nations which have led and still lead the destinies of civilization—the Persian and Parthian in ancient Asia—the Roman in Italy—the Norman of the medieval—the Briton of the present era. Of this family, the Keltic race of France, Spain, and Ireland, are the junior branches. "The Kelts are acknowledged," states Diodorus Siculus, "to be a very ancient people—they are nevertheless but, the children of the Kimbri." To write the annals of the whole Gomeric family of nations, would far exceed the powers of one life. Touching only when the subject imperatively demanded it on the history of the other branches, this little volume gives merely the leading incidents in that of the oldest—the Kymry of our island.”

https://www.thenationalcv.org.uk/More%2016%20History%20of%20Britain%20%20by%20R%20W%20MORGAN%20(1848)%20(2).pdf

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hola, tereza. again, very very interesting. and is there something in the air around us focused on dismantling the stories of jew and bible? (clif high has called it the age of hyper-novelty or, by old language, the great apocalypse when all the lies are revealed.) anyway, earlier tonight i listened to most of jasun's podcast with kevin barrett and his pretty detailed look at some other aspects of the fakery of the jewish 'experience' narrative. and some of the possible psy-op stuff around the story-making elements of the holocaust and the land of the jews as self made scapegoats to continue the jewish experience psy-op. fascinating stuff, really. the discussion included casual reference to the well established (well known?) role of the zionists in the assassination of jfk and 9/11. (new to me.) if curious: https://childrenofjob.substack.com/p/jobcast-24-a-primordial-persecution

i don't have enough knowledge to refute or confirm what was discussed and so that now becomes another rabbit warren to explore at some point. i'll see how synchronicities guide that search — and it seems between you and jasun, that is starting to get deeper.

as you know i too like etymology and the canaan baal etymology of cannibal raised my eyebrows. and, of course, i checked that out by looking at some other dictionaries and their etymological references. not canaan baal, of course. one of the question marks the 'official' etymology raises is that their sources point to the first usage of cannibal' quite late, 1541 per webster. so.... has this word history been jigged to suit its etymology being 'from Spanish Caníbal, from Taino Caniba,' to keep it away from canaan baal? i confess to 'liking' the canaan baal root, although now i simply don't know and won't take the time to research for earlier usages of something akin to canaan baal before 1541.

and thank you for highlighting that 'religious' narcissistic gaslighting very clearly predates my idea that the roman catholic narrative was likewise narcissistic gaslighting, ie the creation of a false and highly controlled narrative that must be believed in order to be welcomed to the group. religion is, it seems, a rather clever spelling of 'being tied to the ruler'. wow! jung with his deep knowledge of language cites religion as being 're-ligio' tied back. however the official etymologies have a peculiar flavour to them about being studious and re-re-reading repeatedly. however, when i dug down through the links in wiktionary, for example, the etymology does get back to jung's etymology:

Etymology 2

From Proto-Indo-European *leyǵ- (“to bind”).[1]

jung took that as grounding people to the earth. now i wonder, if what was meant was to bind people to narcissistic gaslighting lies.

so much to think about and consider. fascinating stuff. i'm still digesting this. i was at best a very marginal bible dabbler. gracias.

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