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Guy Duperreault's avatar

Fun and playful, a sign of it going to the heart of something that might be real on a day when Reality hasn't checked us out of the self-serving line.

Many years ago I did a dream experiment as part of my exploration of Jung and dreams. The question was 'How do I know that I am not at this moment dreaming? That I will wake up to something else and this that I think is 'real' will simply be quickly forgotten, if even remembered, or dismissed as just a silly dream?' The answer: there is absolutely no way to know that!

With time it became an interesting challenge because I'd become adept, with practice, of excellent dream recall and eventually there were times I had a hard time distinguishing between my (so-called) 'awake' diurnal life that is ostensibly real, and the ostensibly dismissible 'real' dream worlds.

What makes this particularly interesting for me at this time, is that in the same way that the Taoists (and Robert Pirsig described in Zen in the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance) there is a difference that is not actually perceptible by the the so-called Reality-focused 5 senses. There is something else.

What is that something else? Love is as good a possibility as anything else!

And going to the Yoga practices as well articulated by Patañjali who echoed Guatama, our first challenge of seeing 'real' the illusion of reality, is to begin to see properly without being deluded by the noise and glitter of that attracts the five senses. What is that which is seeing without senses? Perhaps it is another word for love as well. The one-mind concept you put forward would be another version of that, too.

I love this query. Although I am biased, as you know, given that in many ways much of my writing is an exploration of this question, too.

Do my rambles help? Likely not, although I have no idea of course because communication is perhaps one of the grandest miracles of Life and proof of something beyond our senses. And the pony tails and cheetah spots added play to the words and beyond the delight of the smile they brought to my heart, did not diminish your argument. Although, of course, can I be sure of that? [Headshake.] Life, whatever it is, truly has a wicked, perhaps even devilish, sense of humour!)

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Wildrhody's avatar

I've pondered this reality for quite some time b/c of several things that have happened, once to our 3 yr. old son, once to me, and another time to my brother.

Our son, John, and his dad were driving to the store, where John, in a silly way, told his dad he was going to tell the policeman that his dad made the tree fall. On their way back from the store, a large fir tree had fallen across the road and the fire department was there removing it.

My brother worked at a convenient store, when he was a teenager, and had a dream the store was robbed, and he was shot and killed. The dream upset him so much, he didn't go to work the next day, and the store was robbed at gunpoint, but no one was killed.

I awoke one morning, with a strong feeling that my older teenage daughter was to not get in the car with the guy she was dating due to a possible accident. She thought I was being overly protective, but I was very momma-bear adamant about it. She did not, but he was in not just one, but two accidents that day, one of which was right down the road from us. He was not hurt, but who knows what might have happened to her.

So, my biggest question about all 3 scenarios is how can one know the future if it hasn't already happened - if it isn't in some kind of program? I've had other strange things happen in my life, as well, so I definitely question this reality.

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