hola, tereza. for me the 'joining' process to life began with synchronicity monitoring in my journals begun 'seriously' in the early 1990s. that practice is also a form of prayer. and ultimately it forms the 'matrix' of purpose. tonight I read to yoshiko, who has english as a second language, part 2 of my current series that explores the development of my understanding that body _is_ soul and that for most people, imo, mindfulness is actually a spiritual by-pass because it manages to shut the body out of spiritual practice. during tonight's reading, because yoshiko knows me better than anyone most likely and we've had time to share and intermingle our synchronicities, it was made even clearer that synchronicities are the way the universe puts to us our 'purpose' and nudges us to correct course or to confirm the course of 'purpose'. these days i've come to think of this 'thing' we're in less of a issue of finding 'my' purpose than it is to step out of the way of _the purpose of life_ and to become a part of it. something connected to expanding awareness, i suspect.
have you explored nagarjuna at all? your poem reminded me of some of his poetry. (thank you for sharing it! a great change of pace from all our 'too serious' stuff? really. lol! your poem seemed to be an epitome of seriousness!) anyway, some nagarjuna you might enjoy:
_Opinion_
"I was here before."
"No, you weren't.»
"This will last forever."
Horizons of the past.
"I will survive."
"No, you won't."
"This will end."
Horizons of the future.
What happened in the past
Is not happening any more.
If you think what happened then became you now,
What you grasp would be something else.
What are you but what you grasp?
If you are what you grasp,
You would not be here.
For what you grasp comes and goes;
It cannot be you.
How can the grasped be the grasper?
You're not different from what happened then.
If you were, you would not need a past.
You could survive without having to die.
The past would be severed, revocable.
Others would experience your acts.
Without a past you would be
Either manufactured or uncaused.
"I was here before."
"No, you weren't."
"I was and I wasn't."
"You neither were nor weren't."
"I will survive."
"No, you won't."
Opinions are absurd.
If the gods were us,
We would be eternal;
For the gods are unborn in eternity.
Were we other than them,
We would be ephemeral.
Were we different,
We would never connect.
If I were half a god and half a man,
I would be eternal and ephemeral.
What can be ephemeral
Without eternity?
If this ends, what world would follow?
If this never ends,
What world would follow?
Like the flame of a lamp
The flow of matter and mind
Neither ends nor never ends.
This would end
If mind and matter failed to flow
From the dying of their past;
It would never end
If mind and matter failed to flow
From a past that never died.
If half this ended and half did not,
I would both end and never end,
Leaving half the grasper
Dead and half undead,
Half the grasped destroyed,
Half undestroyed.
Everything is empty
In whom? About what?
Do opinions erupt?
For Gautama,
In whose embrace
Dharma was shown
And opinions vanished.
Nagarjuna, “Verses From The Center” 133-5 translated by Stephen Batchelor.
I love your sister's saying! The Song of Prayer also says that prayer is constant and not a special activity. It goes on throughout the day. So yes on listening to the voice within, which I've always envied (there I go with my go-to deadly sin) for people who hear that clearly. But also yes on listening to other people as an answer to prayer, and to the circumstances surrounding your life. It's all an answer to the question of whether there's purpose, I think.
Yes, when two or three (or multiples of three) are gathered together and their voices join in heartfelt prayer, powerful energies are created and broadcast. The effect is out of all proportion to one praying alone. Nikola Tesla understood this when he said, "If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe."
Very interesting about the powers of three. I feel that prayer transcends being together as bodies, however. I wonder if it's the form of communication they can't take away by shutting down the internet ;-) It's been part of my practice to feel connected to everyone who shares or will share the purpose to recognize ourselves as One--which essentially means everyOne!
Nikola Tesla also said, “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” To that we should probably add "harmonics." One of the functions of a church building is to act as a resonating chamber. The Templars understood this. By creating resonant harmonics with music (church organs are all about harmonics) and chanting, the frequencies are greatly amplified and imprinted in the aether, creating a connection with the divine.
Another purpose of church music is to create an emotional response, which injects heart energies into the prayer.
For these reasons, I think prayer in groups is far more powerful and effective than prayer by individuals and is why gathering together in places of worship is so important. This was understood in ancient times, but is just one more piece of knowledge that we have lost.
That is not to say that praying alone is ineffective; but even when praying alone we should always pray out loud and from the heart 🙏🏻
Hello dear Tereza, I'm not sure the best way to contact you, but I do know that you read your comments. In fact the comments threads on your Substacks are among the best of any. You have a stunning audience!
So here goes: I listened to the Duke Report on Youtube today as I love the conversations between Peter Duke and Jasun Horsley, and this one did not disappoint. Jasun was discussing his book Big Mother, which I am yet to read, but have had a look at. It is his newer project that made me think immediately of you. He is doing a deep and dangerous dive into WW2.
Here is the link in case you are interested. They are both very interested in language, so it may be enjoyable for you...
Kate, thank you so much for that comment on my comments. Yes! My audience is stunning. Having a way to have real conversations here is such a gift, and I'm glad you contacted me this way so your compliment can be passed on.
I also think others may be interested in this link. That's so funny! Jasun is the partner of Guy's sister. He's directed me to Jasun's Substack various times on both the Bible analysis and now WW2. I couldn't read the full article or comment without being a paid sub so this is a perfect way to hear him. I love Peter Duke and I have a 2-hr painting project on my Stairway to Oz today, and needed something to listen to.
In his Substack, however, I was put off by Jasun's implicit authority and dismissal of anyone who disagreed with 'Nope, you're wrong.' As a former victim of matriarchal abuse, he's part of the Peterson school of men feeling that society emasculates them. And I think there's a projection of the devouring mother. But that will make for a good listen and maybe episode. Thanks so much!
Dear Tereza, your denigration of the Nazi's (Nationalists) demonstrates you are either under the spell of WWII propagana or willfully ignornate. Sad. You seemed like a smart and intelligent person. Have you been too busy or lazy to research the WWII facts? Try the UNZ Review as a primer. Then consider Eurpora: The Last Battle and countless other references presenting views in opposition to the "good war" shills.
Hmmm... I'm guessing that you're interpreting from my facetious reference to Hitler as 'the face of evil?' I guess I should have put that in quotes but you're preaching to the choir. Here are some of the articles I've done on the World Wars, mostly from Unz Review references:
This one includes links to the other 10 I've done on the subject. They start with some fairly innocuous questions where the answers become more and more self-evident, so scroll to the bottom for the ones that have more facts: https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/my-hitler-journey.
And yes I've seen the whole Europa and finished a 1000 piece puzzle at the same time, as I've said in comments before. But don't you really think you should do some research on the person you're insulting before you accuse them of being lazy? I guarantee that there is some important subject where I'll be slapping my forehead a year from now and saying, "I can't believe it took me this long to figure this out!" And I guarantee there's some subject right now where I could say the same of you. We're all doing the best we can and figuring it out together. There's no need to call people names.
"Grant us Thy patience, Lord,
In these our woeful days,
The mob’s wrath to endure,
The torturer’s ire;
Thy unction to forgive
Our neighbors’ persecution
And mild, like Thee, to bear
A bloodstained Cross.
And when the mob prevails
And foes come to despoil us,
To suffer humbly shame,
O Savior aid us!
And when the hour comes
To pass the last dread gate,
Breathe strength in us to pray,
Father forgive them!"
Grand Duchess (St) Olga Nikolaevna Romanov on Forgiveness ... written in the hand of Olga on behalf of her father ... from "The Romanov Royal Martyrs"
Wow. That's some serious forgiveness. Talk about testing a concept. Thanks for reading, Julius!
hola, tereza. for me the 'joining' process to life began with synchronicity monitoring in my journals begun 'seriously' in the early 1990s. that practice is also a form of prayer. and ultimately it forms the 'matrix' of purpose. tonight I read to yoshiko, who has english as a second language, part 2 of my current series that explores the development of my understanding that body _is_ soul and that for most people, imo, mindfulness is actually a spiritual by-pass because it manages to shut the body out of spiritual practice. during tonight's reading, because yoshiko knows me better than anyone most likely and we've had time to share and intermingle our synchronicities, it was made even clearer that synchronicities are the way the universe puts to us our 'purpose' and nudges us to correct course or to confirm the course of 'purpose'. these days i've come to think of this 'thing' we're in less of a issue of finding 'my' purpose than it is to step out of the way of _the purpose of life_ and to become a part of it. something connected to expanding awareness, i suspect.
have you explored nagarjuna at all? your poem reminded me of some of his poetry. (thank you for sharing it! a great change of pace from all our 'too serious' stuff? really. lol! your poem seemed to be an epitome of seriousness!) anyway, some nagarjuna you might enjoy:
_Opinion_
"I was here before."
"No, you weren't.»
"This will last forever."
Horizons of the past.
"I will survive."
"No, you won't."
"This will end."
Horizons of the future.
What happened in the past
Is not happening any more.
If you think what happened then became you now,
What you grasp would be something else.
What are you but what you grasp?
If you are what you grasp,
You would not be here.
For what you grasp comes and goes;
It cannot be you.
How can the grasped be the grasper?
You're not different from what happened then.
If you were, you would not need a past.
You could survive without having to die.
The past would be severed, revocable.
Others would experience your acts.
Without a past you would be
Either manufactured or uncaused.
"I was here before."
"No, you weren't."
"I was and I wasn't."
"You neither were nor weren't."
"I will survive."
"No, you won't."
Opinions are absurd.
If the gods were us,
We would be eternal;
For the gods are unborn in eternity.
Were we other than them,
We would be ephemeral.
Were we different,
We would never connect.
If I were half a god and half a man,
I would be eternal and ephemeral.
What can be ephemeral
Without eternity?
If this ends, what world would follow?
If this never ends,
What world would follow?
Like the flame of a lamp
The flow of matter and mind
Neither ends nor never ends.
This would end
If mind and matter failed to flow
From the dying of their past;
It would never end
If mind and matter failed to flow
From a past that never died.
If half this ended and half did not,
I would both end and never end,
Leaving half the grasper
Dead and half undead,
Half the grasped destroyed,
Half undestroyed.
Everything is empty
In whom? About what?
Do opinions erupt?
For Gautama,
In whose embrace
Dharma was shown
And opinions vanished.
Nagarjuna, “Verses From The Center” 133-5 translated by Stephen Batchelor.
"Intermingle our synchronicities" I have a friend who calls that intertwingling ;-)
Thanks for the Nagarjuna, who I haven't read. Haha, yes both serious and playful, I hope. And thanks for posting a note on this!
My sister always had a saying: "The most important part of Prayer is Listening." I like your poem, Tereza and loved listening to it.
God is infinite Possibility, therefore Truth is never at rest; even what appears to fallible has it's Perfection, a prayer lets us See that.
I love your sister's saying! The Song of Prayer also says that prayer is constant and not a special activity. It goes on throughout the day. So yes on listening to the voice within, which I've always envied (there I go with my go-to deadly sin) for people who hear that clearly. But also yes on listening to other people as an answer to prayer, and to the circumstances surrounding your life. It's all an answer to the question of whether there's purpose, I think.
Beautiful last line, Nef.
Yes, when two or three (or multiples of three) are gathered together and their voices join in heartfelt prayer, powerful energies are created and broadcast. The effect is out of all proportion to one praying alone. Nikola Tesla understood this when he said, "If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe."
Very interesting about the powers of three. I feel that prayer transcends being together as bodies, however. I wonder if it's the form of communication they can't take away by shutting down the internet ;-) It's been part of my practice to feel connected to everyone who shares or will share the purpose to recognize ourselves as One--which essentially means everyOne!
Nikola Tesla also said, “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” To that we should probably add "harmonics." One of the functions of a church building is to act as a resonating chamber. The Templars understood this. By creating resonant harmonics with music (church organs are all about harmonics) and chanting, the frequencies are greatly amplified and imprinted in the aether, creating a connection with the divine.
Another purpose of church music is to create an emotional response, which injects heart energies into the prayer.
For these reasons, I think prayer in groups is far more powerful and effective than prayer by individuals and is why gathering together in places of worship is so important. This was understood in ancient times, but is just one more piece of knowledge that we have lost.
That is not to say that praying alone is ineffective; but even when praying alone we should always pray out loud and from the heart 🙏🏻
Beautiful, Tereza, thank you.
I thought about you in posting this, Kathleen. I'm glad you liked it.
😘
Hello dear Tereza, I'm not sure the best way to contact you, but I do know that you read your comments. In fact the comments threads on your Substacks are among the best of any. You have a stunning audience!
So here goes: I listened to the Duke Report on Youtube today as I love the conversations between Peter Duke and Jasun Horsley, and this one did not disappoint. Jasun was discussing his book Big Mother, which I am yet to read, but have had a look at. It is his newer project that made me think immediately of you. He is doing a deep and dangerous dive into WW2.
Here is the link in case you are interested. They are both very interested in language, so it may be enjoyable for you...
https://www.youtube.com/live/mwX__1w_MAU?si=JAWH5i5yzkbEEFDd
kind regards, Kate
Kate, thank you so much for that comment on my comments. Yes! My audience is stunning. Having a way to have real conversations here is such a gift, and I'm glad you contacted me this way so your compliment can be passed on.
I also think others may be interested in this link. That's so funny! Jasun is the partner of Guy's sister. He's directed me to Jasun's Substack various times on both the Bible analysis and now WW2. I couldn't read the full article or comment without being a paid sub so this is a perfect way to hear him. I love Peter Duke and I have a 2-hr painting project on my Stairway to Oz today, and needed something to listen to.
In his Substack, however, I was put off by Jasun's implicit authority and dismissal of anyone who disagreed with 'Nope, you're wrong.' As a former victim of matriarchal abuse, he's part of the Peterson school of men feeling that society emasculates them. And I think there's a projection of the devouring mother. But that will make for a good listen and maybe episode. Thanks so much!
Dear Tereza, your denigration of the Nazi's (Nationalists) demonstrates you are either under the spell of WWII propagana or willfully ignornate. Sad. You seemed like a smart and intelligent person. Have you been too busy or lazy to research the WWII facts? Try the UNZ Review as a primer. Then consider Eurpora: The Last Battle and countless other references presenting views in opposition to the "good war" shills.
Hmmm... I'm guessing that you're interpreting from my facetious reference to Hitler as 'the face of evil?' I guess I should have put that in quotes but you're preaching to the choir. Here are some of the articles I've done on the World Wars, mostly from Unz Review references:
This one includes links to the other 10 I've done on the subject. They start with some fairly innocuous questions where the answers become more and more self-evident, so scroll to the bottom for the ones that have more facts: https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/my-hitler-journey.
And yes I've seen the whole Europa and finished a 1000 piece puzzle at the same time, as I've said in comments before. But don't you really think you should do some research on the person you're insulting before you accuse them of being lazy? I guarantee that there is some important subject where I'll be slapping my forehead a year from now and saying, "I can't believe it took me this long to figure this out!" And I guarantee there's some subject right now where I could say the same of you. We're all doing the best we can and figuring it out together. There's no need to call people names.