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occamsrazorback22's avatar

A hard NOPE. Kennedy supporting Israel is a non-starter for me. Anyone who doesn't know how European Jews ended up in west Asia is ignorant of the whole business and should STFU. Info on the Balfour Declaration is readily available. (link) The Europeans loved the Jews so much that they moved them to a different continent. Let the Arabs sort it. Anti-Semitism by other means. I probably vote for either Jill Stein or write in V. Putin. Here in Wisconsin, where I vote, the undemocratic Dem Party worked hard to keep Stein and the black college prof off the ballot. Another reason to vote FOR either of them now. AIPAC runs the USA (standing ovation time, to confirm)-sad but true. This is why we (Americans) can't have nice things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz7JJcO-rWw

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Agreed. And you've probably seen my episode on the Balfour, although I mention it on many: https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/kissinger-and-the-balfour-declaration

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

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• Adolf Hitler - speech before the Reichstag – reply to F D Roosevelt – Berlin, April 28, 1939

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Equally, it appears to have slipped Mr. Roosevelt’s mind that Palestine is not being occupied by German troops but by English ones. By brute force, England is curtailing Palestinian freedom and is robbing the Palestinians of their independence to the advantage of Jewish intruders for whose cause the Palestinians suffer the most cruel of abuses. The Arabs living in this territory assuredly have not complained to Roosevelt of German aggressions. Rather, in persistent appeals to international public opinion, the Arabs lament the barbaric methods by means of which England seeks to overpower a people who loves its freedom and fights only to defend it.

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

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• Adolf Hitler – closing speech at the NSDAP congress in Nuremberg – September 12, 1938

I am not in the least willing to allow foreign statesmen to create a second Palestine right here in the heart of Germany. The poor Arabs are defenseless and have been abandoned by all. The Germans in Czechoslovakia are neither defenseless nor have they been abandoned. Please note this fact.

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Pauline C's avatar

Listened to this speech online. Was very moved by it.

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

RFK Jr lost me the day he hosted Vera Sharav. More if I am pressed.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I'm glad you brought that up. She subbed me, btw, long ago, not sure if she still is. I'm certain to keep an eye on me.

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Sandra ---'s avatar

Honestly, upon seeing her inserted into the covid truth movement, I just assumed it was all about controlling the narrative, making sure that nobody focuses on the role of the tribe in this operation/vax. I even recall early on, with Sasha's substack, she mentioned that Vera contacted her (so I took Vera to be some kind of minder, even wondered if she had been RFK jr's minder all along).

Seems like lots of the heavily promoted fake covid truthers are members of the tribe, conveniently don't notice the tribe members all over the operation and instead focus on China, China, China (e.g. Naomi Wolf, Breggins, Alex Berenson). Yet, this American Jew (ex-Zio) could clearly see that this was from the tribe and he calls it out here (might be motivated to do so b/c his son is dying from the kill shot):

https://rumble.com/v57tv4d-jewish-rabbis-crown-their-messiah-guess-who-it-is.html

Also, I recall from the 9/11 truth movement that many said it was infiltrated right away by tribe members, to make sure nobody looked in the direction of Israel. Victor Thorn did an audio, where he outlined out it operated, with 9/11 truthers who refused to look at the Israel angle all cross promoting each other, having conferences, but never inviting people like Victor or others who were looking at Israel's role. Same thing happened w/JFK assassination researchers- Michael Collins Piper was always treated like a pariah.

And it seems like it played out the same way with covid. I also noticed that lots of the anonymous conservative twitter accounts that were heavily promoted during Trump/covid years just happen to be Jewish (libsoftictok, DCDraino and others). I don't think this is an accident at all. They control social media and use algorithms to promote their own and control the narrative (e.g. LibsofTicTok will never mention Jewish role in promoting trangender/woke agenda)

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Very interesting, Sandra. I just said something similar about 911 and JFK on Mary's thread where someone asked if the PBI and the Deep State were the same. At one level, no because the Deep State is the US-centric limited hangout to divert us. At another level yes, because the same people behind the CIA are behind Mossad.

However he 'answered his own question' by saying the Deep State tried to assassinate Trump, which the PBI never would. Sigh.

You make an excellent point about the cross-promotion of each other and conferences. It makes it seem as if theres independent verification.

And yes, China China China, another Malone theme. And I'm pretty sure you saw this of mine: https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/the-devil-and-naomi-wolf.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I read through the comments twice, Sandra, because I forgot who referred the 'Trump is the Meshiah' video. I thought I already knew but that was flabbergasting. I need to feature that more prominently somewhere. The crown of Torah, the menorah ... Interesting that he still wears the Star of David around his neck and a cap that says Yeshua.

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Howard's avatar

Laurence Guyenot has mentioned the same blacklisting at 911 truther and JFK conferences.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Yes, he'd be my primary source. Greatly admire his research.

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Sandra ---'s avatar

Yeah, I wish I saved the link- it was Victor Thorn audio w/Dave Gahary of American Free Press. I listened a couple of months ago, but immediately upon hearing it, it reminded me of how the fake covid dissident movement has played out.

Sad that Michael Collins Piper died so young (55)- he was treated like a pariah, but was right about everything. If only more people read his books, and listened to his radio shows back then, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now.

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AnnekeB's avatar

Very interesting. I hadn’t seen Vera as a minder-type… and until I found Tereza I had been captured by the Holocaust/Covid stories that were promoted by Vera. Thanks to Tereza’s substacks and her comments sections I feel that I am much better informed about what really happened during WWII and how it’s playing out now in regards to the tribe.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

What a lovely and kind thing to say, Anneke!

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

Okay, I'm pressed … stop it!

• 'Holocaust Survivor' [Vera Sharav] Equates Covid Vax With Zyklon B - Karl Haemers

https://karlhaemers.substack.com/p/holocaust-survivor-equates-covid

Sadly, Karl has ‘disappeared’ (?ill health) but I have his legacy all downloaded.

Please see my own lengthy comments at that time

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Wow. The theme of 'Never Again' was SO heavily promoted by the CDC. How many videos went into her 'groundbreaking' holocaust series on Covid?

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

I was thinking of adding - Vera Sharav is about as convincing and creidble as Irene Zisblatt, Rachel Hanan or ... Elie Wiesel

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I'd make a weasel reference but Mark has cured me of that.

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

A couple of quotes - here is the first

• Adolf Hitler - speech in Wilhelmshaven – April 1, 1939

"If a British statesman today demands of me that all problems related to Germany’s vital interests first be discussed with England, then I could as well insist that all issues pending in Great Britain had first to be discussed with us. It is entirely possible that the English would retort to this: “The Germans have no business being in Palestine!” Indeed, we do not want to be in Palestine. And just as we Germans have no business being in Palestine, the English have no business being in our German Lebensraum! And now they declare the issues at stake to be general questions of law and legitimacy. This opinion would hold good only if they were universally binding ones. They tell us that we have no right to do this or no right to do that. I would like to ask in turn: What right have the English - to cite only one example - to go about shooting Arabs in Palestine only because these stand up to defend their homeland? Who gives them this right? We in Central Europe, on the other hand, have not slaughtered thousands."

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

... last one

• Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf (Thomas Dalton translation) Volume 1 Chapter 11

“When the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the new national consciousness of the Jews will be satisfied by the establishment of a Palestinian state, the Jews thereby cleverly dupe the simple-minded goyim. They haven't the slightest intention of building up a Jewish state in Palestine so as to live there. What they really want is a central organization for their international world-swindle, one with sovereign rights and freedom from outside control–in other words, a refuge for convicted lowlifes and a training ground for budding criminals."

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I had been thinking that Israel is the fourth autonomous power center with the Vatican, DC and the City of London.

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

Or ... the head of the snake

PM Bibi Netanyahu Boasts about the Israeli NSA Unit 8200 Israel is the Second Eye of Five Eyes

https://altcensored.com/watch?v=Jwv5_bTlgjs

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Sandra ---'s avatar

Kind of seems like it.

Also, what about the Sanhedrin?? I heard an American Jew mention it here:

https://rumble.com/v57tv4d-jewish-rabbis-crown-their-messiah-guess-who-it-is.html

"In Israel, the Knesset and Sanhedrin have proclaimed Donald Trump the messiah"

But I just dismissed it--didn't really know what he was talking about.

The other interesting comment this American Jew made was that Trump is considered the messiah by group of "Rabbis who run your country."

At first, I thought that was crazy b/c my take on things is that the Rothschilds are the ultimate power, with AIPAC owning Congress and Zionist billionaires/Rothschilds buying/owning the President (something like that). But now I'm starting to wonder- who are these rabbis? Are they Chabbad? Why are they always pictured with all world leaders? Seems like there's more to the story. Normal Jews warn about Chabad being a mafia (https://www.chabad-mafia.com/), and seems to suggest that they have hundreds of millions, but maybe if their operation is world-wide, then their wealth is much more?

Anyway, back to Sanhedrin, I just found this book today:

A Jew Exposes the Jewish World Conspiracy by Henry Klein 1946, and it mentions the Sanhedrin as being some kind of ultimate power "Sanhedrin Produced World Destruction"--so I guess I'm confused about the power structure in Judaism and how all of these pieces fit (I've only skimmed pages of this book)

https://ia801706.us.archive.org/24/items/1946-a-jew-exposes-the-jewish-world-conspiracy-henry-h.-klein/1946%20-%20A%20Jew%20Exposes%20the%20Jewish%20World%20Conspiracy%20-%20Henry%20H.%20Klein.pdf

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I'm leaning towards the Rothschilds being the bankers for the Black Nobility or Royal Scyths or whoever the bloodline is. They may not be the ultimate power.

And definitely Trump is their Messiah, from the coins that superimpose his face of Cyril the Great, to the menorah, is it? or something inscribed to him. The links are somewhere in these comment threads. And Isaac Middle does some very compelling work on him.

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Sandra ---'s avatar

Thanks for your thoughts on this. Seems like there's always more to research!

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

It's interesting how differently I read that whole list of her campaign promises than I would have 10 or even 5 yrs ago. I don't think it's particularly Jewish of her, that agenda. It's the same one all my liberal neighbors have. We fund militaries that protect corporations and coups in other countries, and then we feel guilty about needing to take in all the refugees. First deport the corporations! That's why 'First do no harm' is actually an excellent ethical framework, it's really the same as the reverse of the golden rule, Do Not Do to Others what would be Wrong for Them to Do to You.

If our first step was defunding US terrorism, immigration would solve itself.

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Pauline C's avatar

All the same T when I recently note the ongoing mass immigration, e.g., being enforced upon the small island of Ireland I think it's mostly unrelated to US terrorism/Anglo-American foreign policy. Something else deeply unsettling is afoot.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Oh you're so right, Pauline. Way back in my conspiracy pubescence I remember hearing about Angela Merkel taking in immigrants in Germany and thinking, "Well at least she's doing something right." But my next thought was, "That's discrepant with everything else she's doing. Hmmm... low wage workers to drive down their economy?" And now, of course, I'd see it as full-flung chaos policy of the WEF and the PBI.

I don't mean to imply that the immigration agenda isn't a ploy. And it's entirely possible that Jill Stein is knowingly part of it. But they sell it through white guilt, which she seems to consistently represent in her policies. We're conflicted about whether it's the job of gov't to take care of people (meaning make us do it) or to enable people to take care of themselves and their own. That conflict is used to manipulate us.

Either way, I certainly wouldn't endorse her but she's possibly naive rather than complicit in the agenda you rightly identify.

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Sandra ---'s avatar

knowingly or not, seems like she's helping with the plot outlined here:

https://x.com/SimonHu51202170/status/1828500795299635637/photo/1

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

Some Jews are not Zionists, and some Zionists are not Jews.

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

• New York University adopts new speech code making Zionism a protected category - MEMO | August 29, 2024

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240829-new-york-university-adopts-new-speech-code-making-zionism-a-protected-category/

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Howard's avatar

Tough choice. Stein, Massie, Putin, Carlin. What's one to do?

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

Speaking of the Balfour Declaration, there are still MORE pieces even to THAT puzzle. The virtually unknown role of Louis Brandeis is thoroughly researched and explained by Duane Hayes in his ten-part series on Bulletproof Publications, titled “Brandeis: The Rise of the Experts”.

Duane now appears regularly on Daniel Kristos’ podcast here:

• Bulletproof Wednesdays: How WE Got Here on 28-Aug-24-11:02:02 – Daniel Kristos Ba’al Busters with guest Duane Hayes (Diego Gacia)

https://rumble.com/v5comnn-bulletproof-wednesdays-how-we-got-here.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

From around 1:18:00 in the above video Duane reads from his supplementary article

• The Future Perfect Pt. 1 From the Paris Peace Conference…

http://bulletproofpub.com/2022/10/16/blogs/

(Go back to the Index and follow the ten-part series with commentary on the Deep Share youtube channel.)

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Philip Mollica's avatar

And add another Israel supporting populist, Tulsi, to the Trump Train.

There is no middle ground. There is no compromise. There is no looking the other way.

It's too bad that no-one has to balls to take the stance against AIPAC.

But then again, there is a whole busload of things that we've been told we are that are simply not true.

So this is not only about Israel, but about seeing the U.S. and its history clearly and without distortion for the first time ever.

This is the Shift. Everything left for mankind to unravel is coming to the surface. Like Laurie Anderson says, "This is the time, and this is the record of the time." Who are we and where do we stand on the "Importance of the Individual?" This is the only question that matters.

https://youtu.be/qoM5E2ijwyY

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Yes on Tulsi. I had initially included this Vanessa Beeley on the Trump Zionist Dream Team that includes Tulsi, but it got too long: https://beeley.substack.com/p/hezbollah-retaliation-and-trumps. I think she's going to come out with an article on it soon.

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Kathleen Devanney. A human.'s avatar

"This is the Shift. Everything left for mankind to unravel is coming to the surface." 🎯

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

I have spoken and written very highly of, and with such admiration and high hopes for Tulsi Gabbard – her theme of “Servant Leadership” (“Service Above Self”) is all very appealing.

But she started to lose me with her presidential announcement speech. My reaction - Americans can’t be “who we [they] are” until they “talk about 911”.

And then this interview with Stephen Colbert

She seems to say all the right ‘anti-war’ things but then it starts to go downhill from around 2:50.

Then at 4:20+

Colbert: Do you believe that he [Assad] is a war criminal? Do you believe he gassed his own people or committed atrocities against his own people?

Gabbard: YES – reports have shown that that’s a fact … [I’m afraid the rest is blah]

https://youtu.be/i0jnKb8MDks?t=261

And then … Tulsi Gabbard – Shaloha!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXskfLafU2A

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Tulsi is also a WEFfie, isn't she? I thought I remembered her saying, "I don't know why they put me in their list of graduates, beats me!" She's a slippery one. Once again, saying all the right things until it comes to actual policy. And her absence of attention to Maui was notable. But yes, there's a reason we both like her rhetoric.

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Visceral Adventure's avatar

I just read Barbara’s and this post back to back. Hers starts with a personal story and pivots to Bobby at the end and I will most likely post a similar comment there:

https://open.substack.com/pub/barbarasinclair/p/return-to-lake-leelanau?r=xi283&utm_medium=ios

I find myself “straddling the divide” myself. The issues that are dear to me that RFK Jr. speaks so well and clearly about appeal to my humanness and yet I, too, had reservations about his campaign the moment he took such a firm pro-Israel stance. I was hoping that Eisenstein would offer levity, himself being Jewish and advising Bobby in the campaign, (also, as I was typing this, I received a Substack notification about a post from CE regarding Kennedy, how weirdly coincidental is that?!?) but since Bobby seemed to support military funding of Israel and looking at some of Mathew’s research into the thick Scientology factor that buzzes around the presidential hopefuls (Kennedy, included), I still firmly stand on the position that no one gets a seat on the table unless they’re compromised and politics is a giant circus with an endless stream of clown cars in all sort of primary and tertiary colors. And yes, last year, all I wanted Bobby to do was use his platform to tell the truth and not worry about the campaign.

I also read Johnstone’s post about the twins a couple of weeks ago (and like a coward, I had to stop reading some of her posts because I found it difficult to function and I had to disassociate) but I forced myself to do it because I needed to keep the wound these kind of atrocities leave on my soul exposed to feel the pain since I feel helpless in much else.

I’m grateful for some of the ideas that Bobby has brought more prominently in the public view. But I don’t want to be “bought” to be on the side of anyone simply because we align on something. I imagine this is how it’s worked for a while. The release of control on one important issue is the price paid to continue or make other issues worse.

You walk into discussions with great conviction, T, and I admire how much knowledge you have amassed and how you synthesize several nodes of information to form your stances. I often rely on instinct to fill in the gaps of my understanding. When I read Barbara, and Kathleen, and Mary, I’m deeply moved by how they see us and our existence because I do believe in the more beautiful world our hearts know is possible (to use Charles’ saying even as flawed as he, himself, can be). This isn’t to take away from Gaza. Gaza is the furthest point away from that vision. I just have to hold on to the feelings that move my humanity to keep my eyes and spirits focused on what needs to be done to accomplish that vision.

I’m pretty certain that if we solve the quagmire that is Israel and Palestine, we might actually have a chance as a species. To move on, we need to agree that harming anyone is not the path forward, controlling anything is not the path forward, leaving anyone resentful is not the path forward. I hope we see a solution in our lifetimes. ❤️

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I'll reply here, Tonika, to catch you and Mary and Neshma. It's occurred to me that there isn't a context for the respect I've had for Bobby through his various incarnations. So I wanted to repost my reply on Barbara's stack:

"I hope that you will never feel 'ire' from me, Barbara. I love the heartfelt responses to Bobby from you, Mary, Tonika, Kathleen and others. For me, politics is about the policies we want. We're in full agreement on what we long to see with food, pharma, water, soil.

"A dozen years ago I was interviewing Nicolette Hahn Niman, author of Righteous Porkchop. She's the vegetarian lawyer who battled against factory farms under Bobby, who wrote the forward to her book. Through it, she ended up marrying the owner of Niman Ranch, and still doesn't eat meat. She's been an example I use of coming together over principles, not how they're applied.

"I have another book where Bobby wrote the forward in his role with Riverkeepers. I really admire the work that he's done and his integrity. Before I had a Substack, I did two videos on The Real Anthony Fauci, which I called one of the greatest works of meta-journalism--a term I had to invent for it because mere journalism didn't suffice for something that encapsulated so much information and integrated it. Here are those: Infodemic: RFK & the RAF https://youtu.be/ifRlBglQvXA and Conspiracy Theorist is the New Heretic https://youtu.be/UJI1X7l48vM.

"In both, I used a picture with the cover to get around the censors but I believed so strongly in it that I was willing to risk getting shut down. I also had a fight with my local bookstore over their refusal to carry it, which I talk about in another episode.

"So I'm not questioning whether Bobby is a good person. The role of President, however, has more power over the military and foreign policy than any other individual. I do feel that we have a personal responsibility for the actions that are done in our name with our money. So my question is no longer about him but whether I can be a moral person under him as President.

"I'm only responsible for my own actions but I take a long definition of that, down to the seventh generation of what my money or words make happen after they leave my mouth or my hands. That's why I see foreign policy as a moral question."

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Sane Francisco's avatar

Thanks Tereza... I will listen to all of those as I wander around doing errands.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Oh I think you'll like them, Neshma. They seem like such a different era to me, when Russell Brand was the only one I knew talking about these things and everything felt so unreal. I'll have to listen again and see if I recognize myself from that time.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I agree with Mary that this is beautifully written, Tonika. It was making me sad, when I wrote and recorded it, that I knew you and Mary disagreed. Kathleen's post combined diplomacy with bringing in facts and not reaching conclusions, which I admired. My conviction was helped along by an adversary to whom I felt no obligation to soft-pedal since he/she started with a passive-aggressive insult couched as 'people' rather than 'you.'

I've unsubbed CE but I'm curious about his post, if you wouldn't mind linking it. What I keep coming back to is whether people are naive, captured or complicit. In some ways it doesn't matter but in others, it's the most important distinction. The word 'flawed' would be what I call naive--someone who doesn't see what I do. That's how I would have described CE and Bobby before I did the Deep Fake episode. Then I moved to complicit for CE and captured for Bobby. But I think that if someone had a gun to my daughters' heads unless I went along with something, I'd agree but make sure to do a piss-poor job of it. That's not what Bobby's done.

The purpose of truth mixed with lies is that you recognize the truth and swallow the lies or recognize the lies and throw out the truth. 'The world that our hearts know is possible' is a great truth. It's going to happen in your lifetime, Tonika. Don't let anyone take that away by mixing it in with an opposite agenda. Believe the words your heart knows are true, not because of the lips that utter them.

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Visceral Adventure's avatar

Charles’ post is a notification that a big post is coming:

https://open.substack.com/pub/charleseisenstein/p/patience-please?r=xi283&utm_medium=ios

But when the big post comes, I’ll link to it here.

I appreciate the compassion you extend to me when I spout my opinions knowing I haven’t fully done the research or when I sit on the fence. I see the fierceness with which you defend that which you’re passionate about. And yes, agreed, align with ideas, not people. 🤝

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

We're all just poking in the dark, figuring things out, Tonika. There's only one thing I ever criticize, which is moral superiority, the belief that some people are better than others. It's the basis of my critique of Israel and the ideology that backs it. It's what the 'Moral Critic' was representing in his/her statements. It's the opposite of what you represent, something I say with as much confidence as I've ever had with anyone.

You're the one giving me compassion when I throw things at you, sitting on that fence, and you're willing to catch and hold them, not dodging or throwing them back. It's a graceful balance, much more than someone who already agrees. There are many who agree, for instance, from a place of moral superiority. And sooner or later I'll be throwing things at their fence and we'll see how they respond.

But I did want to nit-pick one minor point in RFK's speech. Were you just a teensy bit disappointed when he made obesity his major health issue to tackle? Maybe it's listening to Aubrey Gordon for my Round Body Beauty episode, maybe it's having two daughters who give the lie to 'good food and exercise' as the cure. Maybe it's also that it goes back to blaming individuals rather than changing the system. I know it's the weight-loss drugs that he is opposing but it seemed like a very Michelle Obama food-garden-on-the-WH-lawn solution. Curious on your thoughts.

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Visceral Adventure's avatar

🤔 I might be the wrong person to ask. I find beauty in big bodies. They remind me of Mother and Earth. (I saw One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest a while back and Nurse Ratchet was a petite lady. Although a great actor, the visual of that worked against the overbearing character).

I was pretty overweight before the cancer. The aesthetic of it didn’t bother me, but I did find myself out of energy and super cranky if it was hot outside. It limited my activities and it affected my mood. After dropping 65 lbs, the ease with which I can go up and down the stairs a hundred times in a day has put a pep in my step. Aesthetically, since I haven’t bought new clothes, everything looks baggy and terrible, but I do enjoy being smaller sized.

Having said that, Bobby’s comment about the obesity factor had a bit more to do with the unintended consequences of ultra processed food. I have to go back and watch it again. I’m sorry I didn’t do it prior to responding. (My Coley shot yesterday kicked my ass and I’m still having trouble functioning).

There are fat people in Europe too. But there, it’s because they know they’re over indulging and sipping that fine wine. Here, trying to eat as healthy as I thought I could and exercising (which isn’t saying much, I much more preferred playing softball or doing an activity than working out) didn’t matter. I got big simply by eating on the go, serious lack of sleep, and living an extremely stressful life. If I had affordable and easy options for food that wasn’t processed, I know the choices I could have made might have been the difference. Obesity is a byproduct. If we eat toxin laden foods, our health suffers and eventually our bodies can’t catch up with its needs and begins to haywire (like that laundry machine video! 😂).

I don’t think blame should be shifted entirely on one thing or the other. The system could help with better choices but we as individuals could do better too. Of course, at some point food becomes an addiction - if you put sugar in everything and you crave that taste, you’re more bound to make bad choices. Last night, at 2 am, there was a pounding on my door. I was in the throw of my Coley chills and barely made it there to ask who it was. It was a pizza delivery for my neighbor. These are the type of choices that aren’t the best for our health. It might not make a difference once in a while, but once the habit is formed it’s like looking for the water when we are swimming in the ocean.

Thank you for your kind words. For the record, I do agree with your red line. Im also pleased to see the needle move on some other issues. Still not voting.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Smiles, Tonika. You are working so hard for your health and to be there for your sons. It's such an inspiration.

I love how you see both sides of the weight issue. I have that same appreciation for both. Veronica, my oldest, is doing a program that she did before her wedding that just changes your awareness of what you eat and what triggers it. I forget the name but it seems very practical, not making rules but looking at the water content and just knowing what makes you tick.

I alternately worry about Cassandra losing mobility, with such a rapid weight gain, and think she's such a gift to round bady women everywhere. She's so confident and positive, and scatters compliments everywhere she goes. She says that it helps having a boyfriend who loves every inch of her.

What makes me sad is that we are so uncared for in our health. I'd like to find out if her thyroid is making things harder, since her uncle's never developed past the size of a child's. And if her birth control prescription is wrong for her. And I wish our jobs weren't all mobile (service jobs) or all sedentary (office jobs, which she has now). And the cost of real food for two slightly-over min wage workers trying to cut it in San Diego on their own! There are just so many factors that are systemic, and I'd have liked to see Bobby look at decentralization and community control of our lives, and not the individual. But I'm also happy to see a lot of issues mainstreamed in the way only he could do.

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Visceral Adventure's avatar

I appreciate those who come with confidence and comfort in their own skin. And the fact that Cassandra showers others with compliments is indicative of her own happiness and radiance. I also have a partner who prefers me thicker, but being able to run around after a five year old takes precedence.

Birth control and thyroid issues are both more of a western problem. A lot less common in Europe. Partly, we’re not educated enough in the States on these factors. If you’re a woman, the feminist movement propagandises towards the need for birth control, and although I appreciate that I can get insurance to cover the cost, it’s almost a misdirection so we don’t look at the long term side effects. I’m not one to talk, I never did the birth control thing, but the option and the responsibility falls on women and I often felt the pressure in my youth as I changed boyfriends. But just like covid jabs, birth control will be considered safe until it isn’t.

I know you unsubbed Charles so I’m sorry to bring him up again, but he wrote a book called The Yoga of Eating and it was a game changer for me. It sounds a bit like what Veronica is trying out. And then Gary Sharpe has written extensively about stress and its accumulative effects and it really expanded my understanding not only about what and when and how much I eat but who I eat with, my mood when I sit down to eat, etc. it starts to get into woo woo territory, but I know we don’t shy away from that.

But I am attracted to big bodies. Amy’s AI renderings are simply divine. It’s not just big bodies though. It’s graceful big bodies. There’s something so beautiful when I see a big woman dance elegantly. I like the tribal black women with the big fros and big butts moving their hips while defying gravity. Please don’t judge me.

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Mary Poindexter McLaughlin's avatar

Beautifully said, Tonika. Thank you for articulating your response with such grace.

I've been struggling with how to respond to the back-and-forth that I "hosted" in my comment section. My instinct is to step in and try to build a bridge, to clear up what I view as misunderstandings between parties. But I also know that it's not, actually, my responsibility to do so.

But what I've come to believe dovetails with what you said at the end of your comment: "To move on, we need to agree that harming anyone is not the path forward, controlling anything is not the path forward, leaving anyone resentful is not the path forward."

I don't need or want to convince anyone of anything. I used to, but I don't anymore. I want to find common ground. The "path forward" requires a joining of hearts -- even if our minds can't find communion.

So in that spirit, I'll say this: I hope we see a solution in our lifetimes, too. ❤️

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I knew that our discussion was putting you in the conflict, Mary, and I felt bad about that. Your readers are people who've come to you and who you host, who have a sense of safety with you. It's like going to a dinner party and having an argument that causes another guest to leave angry, perhaps never to return. I was sorry to be putting you in that position.

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Mary Poindexter McLaughlin's avatar

Thank you for seeing and acknowledging that, Tereza. It's good for me to have that experience, though, because it teaches me (again) to not always step in and manage/facilitate. It's what I know how to do, but it's not always warranted or even wanted by the parties involved.

Like Tonika said: I'm certain of your heart, too. ❤️

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Visceral Adventure's avatar

Thank you, Mary, I was nervous I wouldn’t come off as very graceful. And I just knew that your instinct was to bridge but I’m glad you abstained.

>The "path forward" requires a joining of hearts -- even if our minds can't find communion.

Exactomundo!! I’m certain of your heart. And Of Tereza’s. And of Barbara’s. And really, all the Apocalyptomists. Ultimately we want a gentle, autonomous, and loving society. One where no one is being taken advantage of because there is no advantage to be taken. Thank you for being so open with your uncomfortable feelings. I’m learning how to be better at that.

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Sane Francisco's avatar

So well said, Tonika. I resonate with everything you say here.

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Visceral Adventure's avatar

Thank you, SF, nice to see you back on Substack. Missed ya!

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Mark Alexander's avatar

Because I'm an idiot, I have a hard time seeing how the two statements about moral inconsistency are different. I hope a Smart Person can explain it to me.

The washing machine video was hilarious. The motor was amazing, never giving up even after everything around it had fled the scene. There's a deeper lesson there, I'm sure, but I don't know what it is.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Agreed on both counts ;-) The washing machine motor just laid there whimpering. I was stretching for a metaphor also.

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

“I have the enemies to show for it.” 😊

Just brilliant, Tereza. You certainly put virtue-signalling “The Moral Critic” through their final rinse cycle.

As a matter of ethical consistency, I watched on your Rumble link, not youtube (albeit not much of a choice)

I had just finished watching Max Igan when the notification for your post came through.

• Inversion – Max Igan thecrowhouse

https://odysee.com/@thecrowhouse:2/Inversion:7a

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Hahaha! I'm glad you got that comment on enemies. Most of them just duck down different aisles when they see me in the grocery store ;-)

And thanks for the fun video and the link to Max Igan, I've been missing his commentary.

I was up at 2 am worried about another ethical decision, so I thought I'd get this out. This is a trippable hole in my highly trafficked sidewalk. My handyman could dump some cement in today. My landscaper is willing to fix it the right way, but I don't want him to put his cement license at risk. Or I could get the city involved and get a permit (existential shudder!)

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Mark Alexander's avatar

Cement license? Do such things really exist?

And yes, avoiding permits is a good strategy in Santa Cruz County. When I was still living there, I looked into the permit costs for building a small cabin in the woods, and learned that they might exceed $25K. This was 20 years ago.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Yes! You get it. Other people might think it's the city's job to fix holes in the sidewalk but not where they're driving homeowners out so they can build 5 story cubicle housing with no parking in every neighborhood. And with $300B to Israel, who has the money to fix sidewalks?

One cement guy, who was very helpful, said to have my handyman patch it because if he did it without a permit, he could lose his license. My landscaper, who put in my patios, is willing to do it without a permit but he has a license too. I'm thinking to maybe patch it today and figure it out later without worrying about my blind neighbor or kids on skateboards falling into it.

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Mark Alexander's avatar

I had a neighbor in Rochester VT who used to regularly patch the sidewalk in front of her house. The stuff didn't last long and she kept having to redo it, but maybe that was due to the harsh winter. It would probably hold up a lot better in coastal California.

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Fadi Lama's avatar

WOW WOW WOW

Quote: "Palestine has always been the litmus test for whether someone is actually morally consistent or just giving lip service."

Quote: "I'm not suggesting Palestine is a problem of Muslims. I'm saying that it's the front line in the battle of empire vs. sovereignty, the only war there's ever been."

I agree 100% with Tereza the Courageous!!!!!

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Thank you Fadi! Those are my two favorite lines of the post also.

And I was just reading in your book, "The US has conducted over 500 military interventions since 1776, over one-third of these since 2000."

WOW WOW WOW!

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Howard's avatar

I agree on these two quotes. And the intentional, false commingling/equating of the Palestine issue with the "Muslim/Islamofascist" non-issue is repulsive. I know we're ruled here by a "uniparty" but in this specific case, it's the "right" that's predominantly the mouthpiece. And "the right" includes Tulsi Gabbard and several noted "freedom loving alt" stars.

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Lasse Karagiannis's avatar

RFK Jr knows Israel killed his uncle and his father. They have got dirt on him because he was on the Lolita Express where allegedly Epstein the Mossad agent threw him off. He has a sexual addiction problem and he wrote about his escapades in a diary. His wife found that diary it seems and later committed suicide. She was dug up from her grave and placed elsewhere.

The porno rabbi Shmuley Boeteach (he runs a kosher sex shop with his daughter Leah) was chosen as his handler.

When Israel found out that Trump will release the rest of the JFK-files they told RFK Jr to withdraw and express support for Trump. They accurately predicted that Trump would feel gratitude towards RFK Jr. and Trump has chosen RFK Jr as the chairman of the release of the JFK files, this ensures that nothing will be revealed related to Israel.

Trump has already released a file which implicates Israel in a major way, see

https://archive.is/lAHW9

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Much of what you're saying makes intuitive sense to me, Lasse. I think RFK was rufied and there's footage of him with VERY young girls. That seems like the only blackmail that would be potent enough to keep him on leash.

But why would Trump want to hurt Israel when he's their chosen Messiah? Sandra posted this, which I knew but puts things together in a clear way: https://rumble.com/v57tv4d-jewish-rabbis-crown-their-messiah-guess-who-it-is.html.

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Howard's avatar

I agree with both parts of your reply. Trump appears owned by ALL Zionists concerned, including Christian. Who knows, but I don't see where Israel would have any worries on what would be released even if Jr. wasn't on the team.

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Frances Leader's avatar

The commemorative gold coin, struck by Israel, on the occasion of Trump moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem told me clearly that Trump has been indicated as the Messiah.

Trump's face is superimposed over that of Cyrus the Great who built the 2nd Temple in Jerusalem.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

100%. Let's not let that be memory-holed!

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Brigadoon's avatar

great post Tereza- I so much appreciate your moral clarity

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

As I was reading your exchange of word salad, the following passage came to mind

“The more I debated with them the more familiar I became with their argumentative tactics. At the outset they counted upon the stupidity of their opponents, but when they got so entangled that they could not find a way out they played the trick of acting as innocent simpletons. Should they fail, in spite of their tricks of logic, they acted as if they could not understand the counter arguments and bolted away to another field of discussion. They would lay an essentially different nature from the original theme. They would lay down truisms and platitudes; and, if you accepted these, then they were applied to other problems and matters of an essentially different nature from the original theme.

If you faced them with this point they would escape again, and you could not bring them to make any precise statement. Whenever one tried to get a firm grip on any of these apostles, one’s hand grasped only jelly and slime which slipped through the fingers and combined again into a solid mass a moment afterwards. If your adversary felt forced to give in to your argument, on account of the observers present, and if you then thought that at last you had gained ground, a surprise was in store for you on the following day. The [pronoun] would be utterly oblivious to what had happened the day before, and he would start once again by repeating his former absurdities, as if nothing had happened. Should you become indignant and remind him of yesterday’s defeat, he pretended astonishment and could not remember anything, except that on the previous day he had proved that his statements were correct. Sometimes I was dumbfounded. I do not know what amazed me the more – the abundance of their verbiage or the artful way in which they dressed up their falsehoods.”

… Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Chapter 2 (James Murphy translation)

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

What a surprise to get to the author. I've had this same experience, both online and in person. It's like someone has you in a back alley and they're taunting you. I cut out some of the diversionary tactics from the original. But yes, then you bring the scuffle into a public place and the tricks are exposed, and you think that's settled. But amnesia sets in the next time you're alone together.

I had someone do that on Nextdoor, knowing that for me to refute what I'd already proven would cause me to be banned. And that if I mentioned that my thread proving her wrong had been censored, that would also get me banned. It worked.

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Pam-icloud's avatar

Totally with you on this. Thanks for writing it up🥰

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Howard's avatar

This is in your Hall of Fame, Tereza. The washing machine comment/video is great! The self-applied term "Moral Critic" makes me wary, instinctively. I've heard lots of "another woke contrivance" or "just another divisive, manufactured woke thing" critiques during this past year. Totally ignoring, as you say, the buried protests and criticisms going back decades. How many "pro woke" pronoun pushers, gender changers, 1619 'scholars,' vaccine mandaters, etc. have lost their professorships or jobs, or been accused of hate speech? And you note what I'm now calling the CIA, Deep State, or "intelligence" canard. That just explains everything -- no further details, documentation, or specifics needed. Just ask Malone. Or Alex Jones. Or Trump. Because the "Deep State" controls everything, EXCEPT THEY'RE not part of it! I wonder what "commie" Peter Dale Scott, totally ignored and an originator of the concept/term "Deep State," thinks about all this.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Thank you so much, Howard. In fairness, I gave him/her the term 'Moral Critic.' I didn't want to use their pseudonym but also didn't want it to be something ridiculing. So that seemed like a neutral statement of what they were doing.

You really put your finger on it with the 'woke contrivance' label. No question that's in a playbook somewhere. And we need a catchy term for that Deep State canard, and you've coined it. Shadowy, faceless oligarchs, that's all you need to know. When I did my episode on the Breggins and finally looked up who the Global Predators were (in the three books I'd bought to support them), it was anyone who opposed Trump. You gotta be kidding me!

Ah Peter Dale Scott. I met him at a 911 and the Deep State conference in Santa Cruz. It was a turning point in my life because it was where I heard Ellen Brown explain how money's created and I thought, "Can't be true, everyone would be up in arms!" But it is and they still aren't.

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Howard's avatar

I have a video of that Santa Cruz conference! Yes, Scott, Ellen Brown, Peter Phillips, Parenti. That's where I first heard Noam Chomsky referred to as a "gatekeeper," based on his Sept. 11 work. If I can find and rewatch it, would you be visible in any of the segments?

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Yes! It was a great conference. I got to buy David Ray Griffin a cup of coffee. The only place I'd be possibly visible is in the questions from the audience, since that was my m.o. at the time. I know that I asked one of Parenti because he expressed the same idea later in different words. My hair would have been short and dark at the time, I think.

I got to drive Ellen to a retreat that was being held later that I attended. As I remember, it was crowdsourcing some kind of manifesto, organized by Charlotte Dennett. I only know because I still have her book The People v. Bush. The crowdsourcing was a disorganized waste of time, imo, but I'm just not much of a team player.

I did stay in touch with Ellen and it was her co-founder at the Public Banking Institute who was the editor for my book. I asked Ellen for a blurb and she told me I should write it for her, but when I wrote that it was a must-read for anyone who wanted to combine small scale sovereignty with public banking, she retracted the offer.

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Sane Francisco's avatar

And then there’s the elephant in the room. Which I chose not to address yesterday in my piece about “The Sanest.” But it’s huge and it weighs heavy.

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The Tiedye Tiger's avatar

After all that I still don’t understand your interlocutor’s ethic. Yours, on the other hand, is hard to refute indeed.

My hope with Bobby was that he was playing lipservice to defending Israel at whatever costs in order to get his shot, but that once in power his superior rationality(and ethic) would be revealed.

But yes, the Trump train seems to have been in endgame all along. I can vaguely hold the same hope for Trump, and the ‘no more endless wars’ platform plank, but your points about what they say cant be rationalized away.

Once again there’s no way out of our complicity with the genocide through the election process. Will you vote?

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Thanks for that kind comment, Tiger (this is not the same Tiedye who made the beautiful sheets I showed off in this episode, is it? https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/ode-to-a-clothesline. Whose name for the company is the clever Resist or Dye?)

I had that hope with Bobby too but it seems unlikely now that he's given up his shot at power but kept his devotion to Israel.

I haven't voted for years. Not since Ron Paul, who seemed like the only candidate who might take the idea of decentralizing seriously. My 'What I Want in a Presidential Candidate' episode goes into more detail.

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The Tiedye Tiger's avatar

No, but I enjoyed that poem of yours! My wife and son went on a tie dying kick awhile back and we’ve all been wearing a lot. For me, in addition to the home made ethos, it’s a bit of a peace statement.

When wearing my shirt one day my son slapped a tiger sticker on it and a handle for Charles C. was born. A few days later you posted that poem and plug. I enjoyed the synchronicity!

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I like that combo of the DIY ethos and a peace statement. Time to put those tie-dyed sheets back on my bed!

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

You can’t say ‘Gaza’ without saying ‘In Gaza’ – Eva K Bartlett

(Vanessa and Eva brought me here)

• Eva K Bartlett Interview on Coffee and a Mike

https://ingaza.wordpress.com/2024/08/30/interview-on-coffee-and-a-mike/

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Thank Goddess for Vanessa and Eva. Wait, was it Vanessa who first brought you to my stack? Is that what you mean?

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Howard's avatar

Two kick ass superstars. For years.

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

Not to your stack specifically, Tsarina - 'brought me here' in a generic sense - as in 'here, to this paradigm' where we intersect and overlap (you are the BIG circle in the Venn diagram). Try and keep up with the gematria!! :-)

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Isn't that Tzarina? ;-)

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

Australian spelling! Thanks Your Goodness :-) :-)

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Scott Gordon - FreeScientology's avatar

No one gets or should expect anonymity getting their comments quoted or screenshot.

Amazing how far people will go to leverage *your* guilt to cover *their* tracks.

It's on the commenter to show restraint in commenting on or posting anything they cannot stand behind. Otherwise we are looking at cowardice.

It's bad enough that the media is owned by big pharma. Is our first amendment going to be owned by their greatest consumers?

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I really enjoy your comments, Scott. They're consistently logical and common sense. Which has never been a common commodity.

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Graham (baba gbb)'s avatar

You are absolutely fantastic. Thank you for doing what you do.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Thank you so much!

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Graham (baba gbb)'s avatar

You are most welcome. I’m kicking myself that I have not known about you and your writing before now. I’ve spent my 50-odd years mostly just frustrated w folks (including often my own self) unwillingness or inability to ask the next indicated question; and somewhere between upset and livid about folks refusal to DO or CHANGE anything but then to tell themselves bullshit stories to mitigate their own discomfort as opposed to humbling themselves and thus growing and deepening as a being in relation to God and other humans and non-humans. Almost everyone I’ve known in my life got got in one way or another by the covid op. And now even most of the supposed resistance or freedom fighters I met and worked with early on have been herded into one or another “cull”-de-sac by use of psyops and operatives and religions and politics to short-circuit their brains at some wall that’s put up in front of them that they eventually bump into that’s just too uncomfy for them so they back away. That prick who got into it w you and then just couldn’t admit he was wrong was a guy most likely triggered on some deep level by the “Jewish victim” op and the related guilt-driven attempt at moral equivalency btwn the Nuclear State of Israel (which is near or at the head of the beast) and the stateless shrinking reservation Palestinian people. I’m so tired of hearing Jews and Christians make this argument. I’m sick and tired of all the Abrahamic religions and pretty much all their adherents, who seem to act dumber than sheep and to act in the most immoral of ways almost directly proportional to their position in the religious hierarchy. Israel will blow up everyone. The people running that show are the most vicious on earth; they don’t give a fuck what anyone thinks. The religions are all systems of sustaining human power and keeping people separated from God. They’re all literally Satanic. All. The. Religions. Are. Satanic. God does not need human hierarchy to connect with and sustain God’s creation. Humans do not need human hierarchy to connect with and be sustained by God. We need to tend our families and gardens and land and to sing and pray and walk around a lot and whoop around fires and sometimes cut loose. That is what we are here to do. Fuck all this other bullshit. You laid down the line in that exchange w prick-man just so beautifully and lovingly and harshly and clearly. Tip o’ the hat to ya sister. Eagerly awaiting your next and time to look back at your old. The only way through is through.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Ooooh cull-de-sac! May I call my next episode on Malone the Cull-de-Sac PsyOp? I will credit you of course. Did you also give me demockery? I need to use and credit that before I forget who it was.

I agree with you that the PBI--powers behind Israel--are the most sociopathic people on earth and have derived from the bloodlines that brought us the Abrahamic religions. I wouldn't say vicious because that would imply there's emotion involved. More ruthless than that, I think. They're so convinced of their superiority and right to rule that no alternative exists for them.

Yet every generation that's been born into that shadow ruling class has doubts. Every one of them has that spark of God that sees it for what it is, and wants a way out. That's the part we should think about, these were babies who didn't choose the role they were born into. Our job is to disempower that role, and something in them will rejoice at being released from it.

I also wouldn't say Satanic, although I'm sure they have rituals they call Satanic that bond and blackmail them into secrecy. And RFK may be held by that too. How easy is it to manipulate a heroin addict into doing something atrocious and having him in your power forever after? I think RFK is trying to do the best he can, but perceives himself as captured. That's why I would never blame him for anything from his past, no matter how damning. We need to forgive him so he can forgive himself, and come back into his right mind as someone with ethical integrity, imo.

To acknowledge the existence of Satan is to adopt the theology of the Abrahamic religions. In these episodes, I show why the one called Satan was actually considered to be the Christ by the anti-imperialists rebeling against Roman rule:

https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/the-devil-and-naomi-wolf

https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/jesus-is-the-og-psy-ops

https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/jesus-rebel-or-imperialist?

Thanks for reading, and for your kind words Baba GBB!

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Graham (baba gbb)'s avatar

I had a feeling you’d like “cull-de-sac.” Alas I did not coin demockery! On the rest, I’m in complete agreement w you. I really should stop using their words. Proxy words. I was being sloppy. Apologies. The Dark Side of Free Will is what it really is I think. Any human can make a different choice any moment. I pray on that happening for many known gleaming heads daily. But it is very difficult for people to break free of their language and tribal belonging models. Also their histories and heuristics. Stories. Also there’s blackmail and worse. There are very dark energies and powers afoot; people use different terms for these things. Fallen angels. Demons. Aliens. Whatever we call them, they are a part of this realm too. And they influence people. I’m a survivor so I speak from personal experience. We can usually mostly protect ourselves and our families from the dark. Just as we can usually mostly make the right choices if we are diligent. But I submit we can only fully embody the spirit of protection and faith when we can fully see and know the dark in ourselves and in those around us. Most folk simply can not stare at their own darkness within long enough to be able to stare at all at the darkness without. Let alone develop a realistic strategy for navigating it.

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