I wanted to like her, but at the end of the day she's got tunnel vision about a pet issue and ignored how COVID biofascism annihilated whatever vestiges of a culture of liberty her country had left.
I'm still raging about what happened in our country in the name of COVID but Australia blew my mind.
Very solid, Tereza. I turned off Caitlin Johnstone, along with several other leftists I used to respect and even admire, solely from her (non) response to the whole covid SCAM and, in particular, her silence (now confirmed as actual disinterest by your report here) during the mega lockdown in her own country and state. I could go on, but will only add that her characterization of your words about Whitney Webb is clearly distorted. Consider this "breakup" as, in a way, just another relationship/friendship biting the dust since January 2020. The psychic response to the "covid thing" has to be at the root somehow.
You’ve done it again! Another great start to my Saturday. Such thoughtful insights and also your willingness to accept that you are not perfect or know everything. I love your aim to enter into situations where you might be wrong.
While I have never heard of Caitlan before now. Analyzing her words you have quoted would tell me she has an agenda and its not a good one. The person who responded to your kind, constructive criticism of her words sounds like a bully goon to shut you up. (Malone flash back) For her to rebuttal twice makes me think she was disturbed by your words. Maybe your words would enlighten a follower of hers. Also, she sounded like a tyrant. I really take offence with anyone stating that any part of the world is irrelevant. I feel bad when I hear of an animal in any environment being abused let alone a human. And you are right, we most certainly can distinguish between the ruler no matter what nationality he/she is and the people of that nation. In fact I feel that the Israeli people have been abused and used by their rulers as much if not more than anyone look at the covid vaccine situation there in Israel. And remember the newspapers "6 million Jews". Just my 2 cents.
Feb 25, 2023·edited Feb 25, 2023Liked by Tereza Coraggio
I gave up on her over two years ago. I was already finding her writing repetitive almost to the point of beating a dead horse. And frankly, I never liked her poetry (tastes differ) and her new peons to drug enhanced new age spirituality got on my nerves.But I still continued to read her
"None of us have figured out how deep the lies go. We all have blind spots and we need each other to point them out, gently, respectfully, kindly."
That is IT. Thank you, Tereza. If there's one thing I learned in 2020, it's to keep a wide-open mind. As human beings, we are so eager to find THE REASON and then stick to it... but life, human beings, and the universe, are far more complicated, multidimensional, and ever-changing than that. And so I try stay curious, always, even when it would be so much more comforting to build a recliner out of my beliefs and relax into it.
“I can find the links and data if Caitlin is interested.”
She’s not interested. For two years much of the comments section at her website (not substack) provided excellent material for thought and research. She no longer allows comments there. Yeah, she’s a real bastion of open discussion.
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I thought highly of her and do appreciate and agree with much of what she covers. But comments of hers regarding lockdowns and “vaccines” tell me something’s very wrong with her.
It’s been damn near heartbreaking….but I’m over it now. Maybe if she keeps going this way she can rank up there with the charlatan Chomsky in Dismissiveness.
I read the words left and right in there somewhere. The left/right paradigm is false. It was created by the powers that shouldn't be to keep us at each other's throats and prevent us from banding together against them.
As for Caitlin....... At first I thought she was very naive. Then all of a suden she started "hitting them out of the park". When I mentioned the fact that East European Ashkenazim Khazars are in fact in control in both the district of criminals, Tel Aviv AND Ukraine I was banned from her substack.
She constantly rants about emire this, and empire that, but she refuses to look at who is behind empire.
i'm glad you brought this subject up about revising our histories. Some would argue that wether we learn the truth about or histories or not, we're bound to make the same mistakes. We might, but eventually we won't. i believe the reason Caitlyn and Margaret don't want to touch the Holocaust is fear of what could happen to them if they did.
this piece by Ron Unz is a brilliant piece on how a certain group of people will destroy one's career if they disagree with what you are saying even if it's the truth. I'm a big history revisionist. Tired of hearing the "winners" version of the story. I'd rather hear the true story. You can listen to it as well. it's a great read.
The question is also: do oligarchs (jooz or not) see themselves eye to eye or will they self-destruct? I wonder if it is not there that lies the next 'revolution'? The collapse of the whole system by implosion. Then what? Will there be a hole, a gap allowing for one or many coherent remodeling? Someone said yesterday "Guy we are on a planet run by toddlers". Those are quite mean toddlers if so. Something will yield for sure. It's inevitable. We could imagine a domino effect but we are not prepared for any kind of collapse.
I too was fooled by Caitlin’s Noam Chomsky rhetorical analysis of the West; I.e. the West is evil not the Jews (really the Khazarian mafia). And once she turned a blind eye on the massive faults of her own country, I thought, “yep she’s a Lefty commie. I’m done”. I liked some of her poetry though. Perhaps she’s Jewish? If so it might explain her aversion to face some uncomfortable truths.
Believe it or not, I just found you yesterday while watching the Couey, Crawford, and Kulacz stream. Today I am watching and reading some of your other works. I like you and your ideas. In one of your posts, you said something like: Do you want to be right, or do you want to understand? That reminded me of a quote I have been saying for years: Do you want to be right, or do you want to be in a relationship? Similar ideas. I also like your statement: I am no better than anyone else. Staying humble and being wrong are very important. At 71, I see that I have been wrong more than I have been right, and it's actually more important to understand and remain open.
Feb 27, 2023·edited Feb 27, 2023Liked by Tereza Coraggio
I missed your podcast where you said you'd talk about things necessary to further understanding during debate. I think any debate we entered would get buried six indents deep very quickly. But I'm willing to risk it if you are, if you're still interested in talking to me. I'd also be willing to give you a personal email address buried deep in an old comment thread. I know you get notified whenever anyone comments. I'm willing to debate any topic you'd care to, and I'll argue either side you choose for me, provided you're willing to do the same.
A few ground rules I'll abide by: I'll assume equal intellect and never demean your intelligence. I think we should not assume a common canon, as I'm sure your knowledge base exceeds mine. I do not even have a high school diploma and little formal education. (I'm a freak of nature; a story we could get into if you desire.) I am self-educated, so spotty and irregular. I will readily admit ignorance when it crops up, although I will have no trouble dealing with advanced concepts. I will avoid exception citing in an attempt to disprove rules. I will make generalizations and expect you to as well, without either of us pointing out "Not everyone is like that." I will not be making emotional appeals, but my lack of compassion is not yours, and I will not be dismissive of any such arguments you may make.
I wanted to like her, but at the end of the day she's got tunnel vision about a pet issue and ignored how COVID biofascism annihilated whatever vestiges of a culture of liberty her country had left.
I'm still raging about what happened in our country in the name of COVID but Australia blew my mind.
Very solid, Tereza. I turned off Caitlin Johnstone, along with several other leftists I used to respect and even admire, solely from her (non) response to the whole covid SCAM and, in particular, her silence (now confirmed as actual disinterest by your report here) during the mega lockdown in her own country and state. I could go on, but will only add that her characterization of your words about Whitney Webb is clearly distorted. Consider this "breakup" as, in a way, just another relationship/friendship biting the dust since January 2020. The psychic response to the "covid thing" has to be at the root somehow.
My response to your post to that laptop class warrior.
(This is in case she insta bans me and deletes it)
"Shh Tereza. You're dividing the movement.
Remember lockdowns didn't hurt nobody. Said by the person who works from home. I got plenty of friends that lost their jobs due to them.
Oh and the vaccines, no big deal right?
Again more people lost their jobs due to that apartheid. I had to go through exemption paperwork and submit to nasal PCR tests weekly.
But, I don't work from home.
Max Blumenthal calls them the laptop class.
That's why they aren't concerned about the 2 weeks to flatten the curve that lasted 2 years."
This is why I stopped reading her at least a year ago. All rants, no solutions, and totally blind to the bio-fascism right in front of her face.
Tolerance for ambiguity is a sign of psychological health. Certainty is for fools and ideologues.
Ah Tereza,
You’ve done it again! Another great start to my Saturday. Such thoughtful insights and also your willingness to accept that you are not perfect or know everything. I love your aim to enter into situations where you might be wrong.
Thank you for your courageous writing😊
While I have never heard of Caitlan before now. Analyzing her words you have quoted would tell me she has an agenda and its not a good one. The person who responded to your kind, constructive criticism of her words sounds like a bully goon to shut you up. (Malone flash back) For her to rebuttal twice makes me think she was disturbed by your words. Maybe your words would enlighten a follower of hers. Also, she sounded like a tyrant. I really take offence with anyone stating that any part of the world is irrelevant. I feel bad when I hear of an animal in any environment being abused let alone a human. And you are right, we most certainly can distinguish between the ruler no matter what nationality he/she is and the people of that nation. In fact I feel that the Israeli people have been abused and used by their rulers as much if not more than anyone look at the covid vaccine situation there in Israel. And remember the newspapers "6 million Jews". Just my 2 cents.
I gave up on her over two years ago. I was already finding her writing repetitive almost to the point of beating a dead horse. And frankly, I never liked her poetry (tastes differ) and her new peons to drug enhanced new age spirituality got on my nerves.But I still continued to read her
"None of us have figured out how deep the lies go. We all have blind spots and we need each other to point them out, gently, respectfully, kindly."
That is IT. Thank you, Tereza. If there's one thing I learned in 2020, it's to keep a wide-open mind. As human beings, we are so eager to find THE REASON and then stick to it... but life, human beings, and the universe, are far more complicated, multidimensional, and ever-changing than that. And so I try stay curious, always, even when it would be so much more comforting to build a recliner out of my beliefs and relax into it.
“I can find the links and data if Caitlin is interested.”
She’s not interested. For two years much of the comments section at her website (not substack) provided excellent material for thought and research. She no longer allows comments there. Yeah, she’s a real bastion of open discussion.
~
I thought highly of her and do appreciate and agree with much of what she covers. But comments of hers regarding lockdowns and “vaccines” tell me something’s very wrong with her.
It’s been damn near heartbreaking….but I’m over it now. Maybe if she keeps going this way she can rank up there with the charlatan Chomsky in Dismissiveness.
I read the words left and right in there somewhere. The left/right paradigm is false. It was created by the powers that shouldn't be to keep us at each other's throats and prevent us from banding together against them.
As for Caitlin....... At first I thought she was very naive. Then all of a suden she started "hitting them out of the park". When I mentioned the fact that East European Ashkenazim Khazars are in fact in control in both the district of criminals, Tel Aviv AND Ukraine I was banned from her substack.
She constantly rants about emire this, and empire that, but she refuses to look at who is behind empire.
FUCK HER!!
i'm glad you brought this subject up about revising our histories. Some would argue that wether we learn the truth about or histories or not, we're bound to make the same mistakes. We might, but eventually we won't. i believe the reason Caitlyn and Margaret don't want to touch the Holocaust is fear of what could happen to them if they did.
this piece by Ron Unz is a brilliant piece on how a certain group of people will destroy one's career if they disagree with what you are saying even if it's the truth. I'm a big history revisionist. Tired of hearing the "winners" version of the story. I'd rather hear the true story. You can listen to it as well. it's a great read.
https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-understanding-world-war-ii/
The question is also: do oligarchs (jooz or not) see themselves eye to eye or will they self-destruct? I wonder if it is not there that lies the next 'revolution'? The collapse of the whole system by implosion. Then what? Will there be a hole, a gap allowing for one or many coherent remodeling? Someone said yesterday "Guy we are on a planet run by toddlers". Those are quite mean toddlers if so. Something will yield for sure. It's inevitable. We could imagine a domino effect but we are not prepared for any kind of collapse.
I too was fooled by Caitlin’s Noam Chomsky rhetorical analysis of the West; I.e. the West is evil not the Jews (really the Khazarian mafia). And once she turned a blind eye on the massive faults of her own country, I thought, “yep she’s a Lefty commie. I’m done”. I liked some of her poetry though. Perhaps she’s Jewish? If so it might explain her aversion to face some uncomfortable truths.
Believe it or not, I just found you yesterday while watching the Couey, Crawford, and Kulacz stream. Today I am watching and reading some of your other works. I like you and your ideas. In one of your posts, you said something like: Do you want to be right, or do you want to understand? That reminded me of a quote I have been saying for years: Do you want to be right, or do you want to be in a relationship? Similar ideas. I also like your statement: I am no better than anyone else. Staying humble and being wrong are very important. At 71, I see that I have been wrong more than I have been right, and it's actually more important to understand and remain open.
I missed your podcast where you said you'd talk about things necessary to further understanding during debate. I think any debate we entered would get buried six indents deep very quickly. But I'm willing to risk it if you are, if you're still interested in talking to me. I'd also be willing to give you a personal email address buried deep in an old comment thread. I know you get notified whenever anyone comments. I'm willing to debate any topic you'd care to, and I'll argue either side you choose for me, provided you're willing to do the same.
A few ground rules I'll abide by: I'll assume equal intellect and never demean your intelligence. I think we should not assume a common canon, as I'm sure your knowledge base exceeds mine. I do not even have a high school diploma and little formal education. (I'm a freak of nature; a story we could get into if you desire.) I am self-educated, so spotty and irregular. I will readily admit ignorance when it crops up, although I will have no trouble dealing with advanced concepts. I will avoid exception citing in an attempt to disprove rules. I will make generalizations and expect you to as well, without either of us pointing out "Not everyone is like that." I will not be making emotional appeals, but my lack of compassion is not yours, and I will not be dismissive of any such arguments you may make.
I'm hoping we can make real progress.