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Visceral Adventure's avatar

😍 thank you for including me in your round up of other non-voters.

I saw your exchange with Marta and meant to respond and then time got away from me. “Trust” does a lot of lifting for us these days. It’s our current society’s meta-currency. It’s used in intimate relationships, implied in para social ones and entirely assumed in political ones. And it’s in pretty short stock.

I still haven’t seen the Malik-Crawford talk, it’s on my list. Am I gonna ever catch up?!? Now I have this Corbett and Webb video in queue as well. Not to mention reading Alicen and Conspiracy Sarah’s stacks! 😬 I need another stint in Mexico just to read and watch. 😂

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I would have responded earlier but I had an acrobatics workshop. One exercise involved letting someone hold your head and move it all around without you leading or resisting. I was told by my partner that I was really good at this, and I said my strength was being docile. He replied that wasn't among the first 500 words that came to his mind to describe me ;-)

Remember that I exist in a solitary space where the only sound is music or podcasts I play, or me talking to myself. My middle daughter just moved into her own place and I told her that was the trick to living alone. She said, "I'm already there! I was playing music while cooking dinner and dancing, talking to myself, and then noticed the window was wide open. Let them think I'm crazy!"

So listening in the middle of kids and chaos is a whole different daunting process. But they are both good. I just love hearing Mathew geek out over his passion for teaching 15 yr olds math.

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Visceral Adventure's avatar

“Docile!” Tereza! 🤣 although, I bet that if you’re the captain, finding a time and place that you can let go and relinquish all duties is incredibly desirable. I can relate to that, running a theatre company and constantly be involved with big decisions, game-time decisions, inconsequential decisions, decisions-that-really-could-have-been-done-by-others-but-since-you-wear-the-hat-it’s-up-to-you decisions… and a gal just has to close her eyes and let someone hold her head and twist it around, come what may…

Now, the listening to music is key and I do that often, but how do you relax enough to talk to yourself? I have a hard time doing that. My inner monologues are epic but always boarded up inside my head.

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Visceral Adventure's avatar

Oh and I agree with Kathleen, every time you share a tidbit about one of your daughters, we get to see a part of Tereza. They’re the best reflections of you.

Btw, I like watching Mathew geek out about most things, but since I saw his approach to teaching math up close and personal, it’s very impressive how he spends his time both observing how the student is learning and teaching with the method best applied by his observation. I naturally do that with actors (apply the directing style they best respond to) but sometimes fail to do it when teaching my own children. It’s the constant cacophony of sound that surrounds me, I think. Haha. Just realised that maybe I’d be better at talking to myself if I was ever by myself.

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Kathleen Devanney. A human.'s avatar

'docile' would not come to my mind in describing you either.

Your daughter sounds, well... like your daughter. Good for her!

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I'll reply to myself to catch Tonika and Kathleen. Yes, my daughters are definitely the best refractions of myself! None of them reflect me, I think. They all catch my light and bend it into rainbows unique to them. This is the elusive daughter, who I just talked to for two hours. In the last couple months, she's turned 30, changed jobs, moved into her own place, went to Europe for two weeks, and is dating someone she thinks I'd love. She had so much PTSD from her first boyfriend that she moved to NYC to get as far away as possible. This is the first serious guy since. Things are buzzing!

And yes, Tonika, talking to yourself INSIDE your head is a survival skill when living with other people. One thing Math mentioned (love calling him that!) that he found key was interviewing students ahead of time so they had to opt in. I don't know how you replicate that as a parent. But it's a big part of my educational model in my system. I think that kids should need to show they can do certain tasks for their home and family in order to EARN the ability to go to kindergarten. The carets they get should pay for the classes they choose but if they want to be part of other classes, they'd need to do something for the parent who'd give them theirs. Turning school--sitting in a chair--into work instead of a well-earned reward and relaxation after manual labor, has ruined the joy of learning. IMO.

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Visceral Adventure's avatar

Also, as an aside, I’m no psephologist, but I’m pretty sure Trump has been anointed and will win in a landslide and since we’re both in heavily blue states, I’m wishing you a safe and sane Tuesday.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Same to ya. I'm already picturing the hip gay grannies across the street decked out like Rambo. Their little dogs could carry the extra ammo while wearing their pickelhaube: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickelhaube.

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Visceral Adventure's avatar

😂

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Mary Poindexter McLaughlin's avatar

I join with you on the catching up... Yet I find I'm just not wanting to engage with cyberspace much anymore. I keep saying to Peter: I want to do something REAL. Not that I even know what I mean by that...🤨

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Wait, I have to draw more attention to this! Do you guys realize that marta and Tonika got an IRL meeting, and in the woods, nonetheless!

Okay we need to up our game, peeps. Zoom calls ain't cutting it. The garaj mahal awaits and I've got woods here too! Mary, a little escape from the geo-engineered hurricanes?

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Mary Poindexter McLaughlin's avatar

Hell yeah!

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marta's avatar

I’m up for it!

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Visceral Adventure's avatar

Oh, a good old fashion adventure! I’d like me one of those too. Yeah, I’m definitely spending less time on screens. But that’s also correlated to having my time taken up by working non-passionate work just to make money so I don’t drown financially. I’d rather fart around on Substack, if I’m being honest. 😂 or even better, be on a good old fashion adventure with you!

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marta's avatar

How lucky for us, Tonika, that we got to have a mini adventure in the woods just now!

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

You have to read my reply to Mary regarding this. And you and the fam are welcome in my garaj mahal too! I'll up the ante with a sea adventure along with the woods!

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marta's avatar

Is this invite to Tonika, or may I invite myself along as well???

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Oh no, that invite was specifically to you, marta! I had responded before where it caught Mary, Tonika and Kathleen but you were on a different indent. I'd love to host you and your family for a little Santa Cruz adventure! We need to deepen our distant online ties, I think, not abandon them for shallow roots closer to home.

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Visceral Adventure's avatar

Yes! That was a supercharge for the spirit! So glad to do it, connect with you, have the kids run around, and all of us breathe fresh forest air!

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Kathleen Devanney. A human.'s avatar

The woods! Don't know what I'd do without it. :-)

I'm in the same boat with ya, Mary.

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Mees Baaijen's avatar

Hi Tereza

Today the Dutch "Trueman Show" asked me for a comment on the USA elections, this is what I

answered:

Behind the big smiles, neat suits and beautiful words of freedom and democracy of the USA's rulers, a rogue state has been hiding for at least 250 years, the "most belligerent nation in history" (according to former US President Jimmy Carter), based on "the principle of genocide" (Noam Chomsky). These American villains do not operate on their own but are controlled by a centuries-old Global Mafia (Glafia) of ultra-rich bankers, for whom Gates, Zuckerberg, Bezos and Musk are merely errand boys.

That's why there is no choice on November 5: the entire American elite, Republicans and Democrats, is intertwined with the criminal Glafia project of world domination, which now forces them to hand over the baton to China and Russia.

For more information, see my article The United States of America: from fake dream, to real nightmare.

https://thepredatorsversusthepeople.substack.com/p/the-united-states-of-america-from

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Mees! I've been enjoying the intro to your book. I forget if I already told you that I had the same experience of synchronicities. It's been eerie. As soon as I get a question formulated in my mind, it's like holding out my hand and the answer drops into it like ripe fruit. Like you said, from the oddest places--a random comment, a book that was unopened on my shelf, a reference on something else that leads to an important clue. I've come to expect it. And yes, it's that little confirmation from the universe that you're on the right track--this is a truth that you've been chosen to bring forward.

And yes, 250 yrs sums it up as you'll see in my chapter 'A Short Eventful History of Sovereign Money.' Killed in the cradle, federalism was (which should never have been democracy).

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Steve Martin's avatar

Hi Tereza.

Still thinking about your most recent post, but this one is easier to respond to.

I'm gonna pull a Chris Hedges and exercise my right to not vote.

One specifically detailed reason why, I just found in an earlier skim today ... https://bookofours.substack.com/p/trump-and-biden-work-together-to. The people's "choice" has long been between being butchered by the corporate nation-state's left hand or right.

Cheers from Japan ... just as corrupt, where the people also lose, but the ruling LDP has just been handed a resounding loss of confidence in Lower House elections. Banzai!

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

What I wrote on that link you included: "Thanks to Steve for linking this in a comment on my post, and leading me here. Great article, more detailed than any I've seen on the lithium mines and battery plants. Really appreciate the deep dive."

Astonishing amount of research.

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Conspiracy Sarah's avatar

Thank you, Tereza.

My hope is that thoughtful interrogation of this caliber permeates our culture. Change certainly can’t and won’t happen without it.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I keep thinking to respond to this, Sarah, but you worded it so perfectly I have nothing to add!

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Conspiracy Sarah's avatar

❤️😘

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Don't drink the Kool-Aid's avatar

The closer they rise to the upper part of the pyramid, the more compromised and dirty they become.

Consider the case of Peter Thiel's "side dish"/"kept" man Jeff Thomas who was rapidly lowered by the force of gravity from a high floor of a Miami highrise onto the concrete below. Miami Police Dept said his death is being investigated as a possible suicide.

Jeff Thomas' agent speculated that Thomas may have *fallen out of the building while taking a selfie!*

Oh? OK, that explains it.

"The Death of Peter Thiel’s “Kept” Romantic Partner Is Being Investigated as a Suicide"

https://theintercept.com/2023/03/23/peter-thiel-jeff-thomas/

"Suicide"? [coughs]

It gets better:

"Several of Thomas’s friends [when Thomas used to live] in Los Angeles said they often saw Thiel at Thomas’s home, and also saw Thomas at Thiel’s nearby home on Metz Place. (Unrelatedly, before Thomas moved in, the home was owned by leading figures in the bizarre NXIVM sex cult that was rolled up in 2021, according to property records.)"

"NXIVM sex cult"? Nah, couldn't possibly be related to such affluent players and influencers ... [coughs]

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Becka Hardman's avatar

I'm not voting! The system is rigged & if we could change things by voting; they would ban it like every other freedom we have.

I know I sound negative but it's a pendulum and it swings from Left/Blue to Right/Red.

The ball is always in the big boys aka Elites court.

Enjoy the show!

Take care of yourself and your tiny circles. Life is too short to not enjoy what we have left!

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I often quote a cartoon of a car with two smashed ends sandwiched between a wall that says Democrat and one that says Republican. The wife asks, "Should we try reverse again?"

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The Tiedye Tiger's avatar

Great post! I wanna vote for u.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Haha! I would certainly have a platform to decentralize and get out of the way. My recent thought is that the US mainland should be divided into 9 horizontal sections by population, each of which is equally divided into 9 vertically. The horizontals would be numbered 1-9 from top to bottom, and the verticals from 1-9 from left to right.

So Washington State would be 11- and Florida would be 99-. It would leave the 01 numbers for Hawaii, Alaska and those 'territories' aka slave/ resource colonies like Puerto Rico. They don't need to be a State in order to claim economic sovereignty.

That would immediately divide the 330M people into commonwealths of 3-4M in one fell swoop. The next three numbers would identify where someone was born down to a community of <5000. For the rest of your life, that would be a community where you'd be entitled to an equal share of the dividend, the collective mortgages distributed as carets/ targeted subsidies.

Sorry to be geeking out on this. I just get excited thinking about how we could go small and make this work.

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The Tiedye Tiger's avatar

Thanks for your really thorough response! I apologize for the delay in mind, it took me a moment to wrap my head around this followed by a busy week.

Regarding a state like California I would imagine it being divided up into constituent counties to respect existing Regional boundaries, such as by counties or in less populated areas, groups of counties. Likewise smallest states might be merged to formal larger Commonwealth populations. That said, a map of at least a sample area might be helpful to illustrate the idea.

As for the plan for implementation, I think that’s where I was expecting your next book, which I think I read somewhere was gonna be the second of three? Did I just imagine that?

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I did launch my first book as part one of a series called A 2020 Vision: the Economics of Community. And yes, I think 2025 is the right time to publish the second, How to Build a Commonwealth. Thanks for your response and noticing that!

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The Tiedye Tiger's avatar

Well, my community needs the windfall! We are voting today on a new resort on prime valley floor farm land, and adding a transfer tax for home sales as desperate appeals to help balance our budget. I’m voting against both. Our sidewalks and streets are hazardous, city departments understaffed. I think your idea is the best I’ve seen to help address the problem of ‘the vampire squid’ sucking our communities dry.

I now better understand your 99 unit idea, but still think that an existing 3 million -person commonwealth like my home state of Kentucky would take umbrage at being carved up and packaged with Indiana and Tennessee. Unless I still misunderstand you.

Couldn’t, say CA, be broken down into groups of counties that better suit the commonwealth size you propose? And small ones like Delaware merged with MD? And if not administered by (more local) elected officials, then by who?

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Excellent questions, Tiger, and again I'm delighted that I get to play with you on how my idea would flesh out in your community, since they all have different needs.

I'll look at the last question first. What you're trying to determine is the smallest unit at which decisions can be made about how to distribute the carets and, most importantly, whose carets you accept at a 1:1 ratio. If a rich neighborhood (100's of people) or hamlet (1000's of people) decides they want to keep their collective mortgages within their own pool, do you want to accept them if you're the neighboring hamlet of farmers, plumbers and housecleaners?

So, to create parity, you can automatically set your exchange so it adjusts. If your hamlet issues 200 carets per month, your labor will cost twice as much in tax-free carets from a hamlet that issues 400/mo. They might as well pay you in dollars, which would add to the dollar reserves of your own hamlet. But if they choose their distribution to include your hamlet, you would both get 300/mo. and you could exchange them for labor at a 1:1 ratio.

I see the divisions as fractal, always including the eight bordering like-sized units on their periphery, so that no one's ever stuck on a border where your money's no good over an arbitrary line. So someone on the Kentucky border with Indiana or Tennessee would include them in their commonwealth. I'd see each hamlet council hosting their surrounding hamlets once a year, and being a guest at eight other meetings that would include the peripheries of those hamlets. So good ideas could spread.

Now for your specific problems on this year's ballot. In my proposed distribution in my hamlet, I'd reverse some amount per person at the level of the block, the neighborhood, and the hamlet. This could include matching funds from the city in dollars, for things that have to be outsourced like materials or equipment. I would NEVER use carets to fund city employees, which will suck you dry in no time at all. Remember, this is supplemental to your city gov't and property taxes. If your depts can run on the fees they're charging for utilities, you need to figure out why. So these carets are like a vote for projects you want to get done. And your unit can add from their own incomes and get matching funds.

As for selling off assets like prime farm land to foreign or monopoly resort developers, you have two friends: eminent domain and taxation of money coming in and out. All businesses operating within your commonwealth need a local account in your commonwealth-owned bank. To transfer money out of the commonwealth means that it's subject to whatever tax you set--I'd tax at 50%. That alone might cause them to sell but you can use eminent domain to buy out any 'foreign'-owned business or property within your borders. As a bank, you can issue any debt you want and buy them out. This becomes a debt to yourself, that adds to the carets you can issue. So it can be a resort, that profits all residents equally, or it can be farmland and you can issue the carets to repay yourself directly. Up to you.

Mine is an anarchist system run by rules, not rulers. In a well-designed system, it doesn't matter who's in charge because they're just running it, not making decisions. So while networks of people would be solving problems that come up, no one should be needed to administer it. That protects it too.

Thanks for asking!

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The Tiedye Tiger's avatar

Maybe I’m not following. Surely an arbitrary grid of commonwealths would not yield these population figures. I’d imagine that more granularly, existing political and geographical regions could be merged or divided as needed.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Thanks for engaging in my scenario-building, Tiger. I'm dividing from the opposite direction, starting with the US population and making sure everyone is included in some contiguous territory. The question is how many divisions would be manageable for a first-pass, to get the US into smaller and similar-sized units. Here, I was playing with 99, or twice the number of the states, as a manageable number.

There are several problems with using legacy political and geographic regions. One is the discrepancy in size. California is 1/10th of the population. It also hogs the coastal access for shipping and commercial fishing. So residents of California would have far less say in their commonwealth than Delaware or Rhode Island.

The Constitution also makes it illegal for any State to issue their own currency or credit. That was the whole purpose of the Constitution, to put the States in debt to the bankers after they'd fought the Revolutionary War to get free of that. But it also says that only the federal government can coin the money--which has been interpreted literally by the Supreme Court when homeowners challenged bankers issuing money out of thin air for mortgages. The federal gov't can now only stamp coins but private bankers issue the credit backed by the housing and needed for trade and taxes.

My only system change is to refute that ruling and claim the right to issue the credit backed by the housing for communities. Now, I ask you, do you want your elected state, county and city officials to suddenly get a windfall of all the money paid for mortgages? Are you going to trust them to distribute it fairly?

That's why the plan for how it would be implemented needs to precede the system change, and be widespread. While individuals may not understand the power of this to change everything, those bankers do. And the politicians would readily jump back into their pockets under a rebranded name.

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

hola, tereza.

yes, the last four years has been the start of the great apocalypse! like you, i had no inkling of a hint of imagining this kind of unveil. it does take something big to shake us up and wake us up when it is so much more cosy to simply do the crossword with pen and a coffee!

all the best with what is changing. everything changes.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Like some others here, staying true to your principles has come at great cost to you--much change, much unsettling. And yes, as the apocalypse means, it's the great striptease. So much unveiling going on, the empire is down to its skivvies. Glad to be figuring it out with you.

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

yes.

it does seem to be accelerating too. i feel quite optimistic now that i didn't two years ago. and it really strikes me that whatever name the ptb have, they are now panicking. some of the stuff they are doing is, to me, a sign of a decaying falling apart mba-initiated plan i watched destroying corporate world in the 90s and 00s.

and i think that they are surprised that the kill shot wasn't as deadly as they had anticipated, and too many survived for the plan.

amazing times! we are actually living the bhagavad-gita!

and, igualmente, figuring it out with you and the others here has been a huge gift and empowerment.

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Kathleen Devanney. A human.'s avatar

I'm more optimistic too, Guy.

We are here for this exact moment.

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

🙏❤️🧘‍♂️☯️🧘‍♂️❤️🙏

and, of course, the exact moment is already here with us! lol! and also, hears us.

i've come to the clear body-awareness that the power of the anti-life forces are actually very weak because that effort goes agains the basic inherent truth of life — that life is fundamentally alive and joyful in its express of that aliveness. it actually doesn't take even a majority of joyful lifers for life to swing the balance.

all the best with what is changing. everything changes! with peace, respect, love and exuberant joy.

🙏❤️🧘‍♂️☯️🧘‍♂️❤️🙏

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Mary Poindexter McLaughlin's avatar

I keep thinking about the Bhagavad Gita, too, Guy. Especially lately as so many beat the drums of civil war.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

okay twist my arm to link my piece on its relationship to Israel-Palestine!

https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/bhagavad-gita-and-palestine

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

bueno.

i reread that. excellent interweaving.

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Mary Poindexter McLaughlin's avatar

😆

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

conspiracy sarah did a great job of deconstructing the drums of war as part of the striptease! the ptb want conflict, which is their theatre of control. so, alt alts, practice peace in mind-body-spirit.

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Mary Poindexter McLaughlin's avatar

"alt alts"?

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

hola, mpm.

the tertium quid, those who are suspicious that much of the alt voice is part of the controlled opposition to give the appearance of objective criticism while keeping the narrative within strict bounds. the 'alts' are a key part of the convid (and all that went before it setting it up) that allows the 'magic' to happen where the eyes aren't looking. so the alt alts! (tertium quid or tereza's 'third paradigm).

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Kathleen Devanney. A human.'s avatar

'the great striptease' may have to steal that!

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

oh please do! I'd love to see that elaborated.

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Mary Poindexter McLaughlin's avatar

I so appreciate your pulling together these various "non-voters" and their respective philosophies! There ARE lots of them this election -- more than I've ever seen. You mention feeling it's a sign of progress, then later say you don't fully agree with them... Can you talk more about that? Is it not voting that you disagree with? Or is it their arguments? Or something else entirely?

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Great question, Mary, I'm always happy for the invitation to give more thought to what I mean. If I were to make the positions dichotomous, one side would be 'vote harder.' The other side would be that we can live ethical lives and create the world we want by disengaging with the system and making good individual choices. I don't agree with either of those options or with something in the middle.

With tens of thousands of paid subs, Corbett can say, "Just drop out. I did it!" But his donations come from people who are working within the system, who've met their own needs and have disposable income. If those people were also relying on donations, his income would grind to a halt. So I think it's false for him to make that claim.

When I think about the extremely competent women in our small circle of friends, each one could easily find something useful that other people in their community valued for around 20-25 hrs a week. Under my system, that earns the maximum amount to pay for a mortgage, food, education, wellcare, retirement savings. So you're not competing for a rising cost of living--it's easy to make enough and be secure.

Then those things that are infinitely replicable, like Substack posts, don't need to be anyone's income. I think we should all be amateurs in the meaning-making professions. It opens up the arts and inventions to everyone.

So I feel people who think individual choice is enough are signaling their superiority. 'If only everyone was like me, things would be fine.' It blames other people for not making good choices when the truth is that not everyone has the same choices to make. Does that make sense?

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Kathleen Devanney. A human.'s avatar

Makes sense to me. And I've been guilty of the same. "Just do this" as if 'this' is available to everyone. Excellent distinction.

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Mary Poindexter McLaughlin's avatar

Makes PERFECT sense, Tereza. So few people are able to see the hypocrisy under Corbett's claim, yet it's very real.

There's a very sweet, highly motivated and idealistic 23-year-old here where I live who holds meetings that exhort attendees to "exit the system." Meanwhile, he lives with his parents and may or may not have a driver's license. 🙃

On another note... I need to read your book. How would you recommend I purchase one?

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I'm still laughing at that, 2 hrs later. And yes, I'm glad to hear you use the word hypocrisy on Corbett. He's considered such a saint but his solutions are shallow. I've responded to some of his ideas, but don't feel any pressure to listen to these, Mary, just to show we're in agreement: https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/be-the-change-is-chump-change and https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/what-is-the-greater-reset?

And a pre-Substack one you'll find funny is Adjacent Nation on Krystal Ball and Russell Brand. Russell says that in his Adjacent Nation, he'd have no mortgages, no taxes and no student debt. I say, why not throw in free pizza delivery and live in your parents' basement? Because that's what it's leading towards: https://youtu.be/p-rBc8XfmyA. Maybe it would be timely to republish that one with a transcript.

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Mary Poindexter McLaughlin's avatar

It IS hilarious. I really love the kid but it's so hard to get on board with his Big Plans. 😂

"Free pizza delivery"... THAT'S funny, too. We're gonna laugh our way through this apocalypse, I'm convinced!

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

HAhahahaha!!! I can't stop laughing at that one!

Amazon is the easiest way, for me and you, to purchase my book. Or for the price of a plane ticket of you coming here I'll give you one of my remaining half-dozen copies. Otherwise, I'm grateful that you're not someone who thinks their individual boycott of Amazon (like not voting) is going to dismantle the empire. Thanks so much for asking! It can be read in the woods! Or on the beach!

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Mary Poindexter McLaughlin's avatar

Okay, Amazon it is! Not that I'm thumbing my nose at your gracious invitation; I'm just going to make that happen separately!

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Philip Mollica's avatar

Had a chuckle yesterday while driving when we passed a cemetery with a Harris/Walz sign on the road in front of it.

Pretty certain there's a meme somewhere there.

And loved seeing these: https://eletees.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Fuck-Em-Both-24-America-Can-Do-Better-Than-This-Yard-Sign-1.jpg

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I want that yard sign! A little number tape-over and it's good year after year!

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Debatable!'s avatar

Well put, a giving of consent indeed. By voting alone we are giving our consent to be governed. What if our definition of being governed is much much different than the definition seen by the ones doing the governing? They are speaking a language that sounds like ours, but it is not our language it’s kind of a mirrored version of our language designed to make us forfeit our free will

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

You might like my latest, which is the first chapter of my book, along these same lines: https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/01-a-democracy-of-slaveowners. Thanks for reading!

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

Dishonesty sets in the minute these democracies claim to represent government by the people and decry authoritarian states as dictatorships. I believe that I can confidently state that today there are only two world powers who can honestly claim to have 99 percent of their people backing the government. What in other countries goes by the name of democracy is in most cases little other than the apt manipulation of public opinion by means of money and the press, and the equally apt manipulation of the results hereby achieved. How easily, however, are these supposed democracies stripped bare of their pretenses when one takes a close look at their stance in matters of foreign policy which constantly change to suit the purpose of the moment.

• Adolf Hitler - closing speech at the NSDAP congress in Nuremberg – September 12, 1938

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Other than Germany, which other world power?

The more quotes you send me, the more I'm coming around to Hitler being an authentic German patriot with brilliant insight into politics, economics and foreign policy--along with understanding foreign techniques of manipulation through finance, media and psychology. I'm maybe 80% there, and 20% that he was an agent of the Rothschilds.

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

I am sure he was referring to Italy in that speech.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Ah, another black hole in my knowledge. One I'm certain you could fill, although the Fascio Newsletter was a great source--I just couldn't keep up with it all.

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

Note to self - IOU some thoughts and quotes from Mussolini.

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

“I went to the Parliament whenever I had any time to spare and watched the spectacle silently but attentively. I listened to the debates, as far as they could be understood, and I studied the more or less intelligent features of those ‘elect’ representatives of the various nationalities which composed that motley State. Gradually I formed my own ideas about what I saw.

“A year of such quiet observation was sufficient to transform or completely destroy my former convictions as to the character of this parliamentary institution.

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“Democracy, as practised in Western Europe today, is the forerunner of Marxism. In fact, the latter would not be conceivable without the former. Democracy is the breeding ground in which the bacilli of the Marxist world pest can grow and spread.

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“The parliament passes some acts or decree which may have the most devastating consequences, yet nobody bears the responsibility for it.

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“This institution is primarily responsible for the crowded inrush of mediocre people into the field of politics. […] The situation appeals to small minds, and it attracts them accordingly.”

• Hitler Adolf Mein Kampf – Thomas Dalton translation

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

Lucas Gage agrees . ..

• No Vote for Cope - Lucas Gage

https://lucasgage.substack.com/p/no-vote-for-cope

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Here's my comment there, after saying I agreed on all counts and linking here:

"Thanks to Julius Skoolafish who sent me here, and who's greatly informed my research on Hitler. This twitter talk on Demystifying National Socialism was the latest thread to unravel the deception: https://odysee.com/@AndkonsReich:31/DemystifyingNS:3."

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Mark Alexander's avatar

Very interesting thoughts on "trust". In the past I've written about how the Scamdemic has made it difficult for me to trust most people if the Excrement should hit the Ventilating Device again. I'll have to rethink that thought.

I also like what you said about connections with people in your community. Since most of my friends, acquaintances, and family are on the other side of the Scamdemic debate, like you I have to keep my mouth shut, but I also have to keep those connections going -- they're practically all I have outside of Substack. (I have exactly four friends I can talk to in person about this stuff, and three of them are 3000 miles away.)

And speaking of "normies", I have been guilty of using that word a fair amount, but I like what Tessa Lena said recently: that using the term implies that one is superior to the other. There's probably some of that going on in my brain, but I also try to tell myself that they've been brainwashed by relentless propaganda, and that makes it easier to be sympathetic.

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

Oh, Tessa is redeeming herself from her devotion to CIA Bob, Meryl and Vera. Yes, getting rid of our superiority is my #1 theme. And I do think it's pejorative and we wouldn't want someone calling us whatever the flip side would be--conspiracy nuts?

I don't mind having my friends segmented, myself. I was thinking that I have a half-dozen meaningful conversations before noon, on average. Isn't that amazing? I never thought that would be possible. And I prefer doing that online where someone can come along days, months, a year later, and like what I've said. It attracts like minds rather than trying to change them, which I've never found successful.

I've also thought how many of my relationships are transactional or situational. Would my buddies at the farmer's market give me produce if the excrement hit the ventilating device? Would my dance buddies shun me if my money was no good for classes? I find myself investing less in those relationships unless they're making me happy at the moment. But I don't do it for the sake of supporting local businesses and farmers anymore. It's a little sad but feels more honest. I don't want to get to a point of feeling betrayed, and that means taking responsibility for myself and not having expectations.

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Ubetcha's avatar

Pretty sure we all agree the bankers run the world. But we must also agree this is a recent revelation for many that was not the case 4-5 years ago.

The world is in flux, people are waking up to how manipulated the media has been.

This is exactly why I am voting.

It’s clear that DC and the media are backing the current regime. The current regime is pro-mandate, pro-trans, pro-abortion, pro-war, anti-speech and anti-second amendment.

Trump threatens that agenda. I agree we cannot vote our way out of this nightmare, but the great awakening is real. We need to buy time until systems start to fail. The regime will force it, if they think they are losing control (see WWI and WWII). The hope is people will realize the real enemy of the world are the bankers who start wars and attack the family unit.

Buckle up.

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Kathleen Devanney. A human.'s avatar

I get your position. I can't help but feel that the narrative of 'Trump threatening their agenda' is another op. Israel is still fully backed by Trump and given the ongoing atrocities, it can't be overlooked, for me. At the same time, I hear lots of people make the 'don't throw the baby out with the bathwater argument', and that Trump will at least slow global agenda. Maybe that's true, but I just can't play their game. I'll write in 'Unacceptable Choices'.

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Amii's avatar

Too many people are drinking the "Trump kool-aid" and believing that Trump will save everything and save the world! Everything going on nowadays is a huge damn Op! So think about it-----what better way to earn "we the people's" trust in a failing system than to get an outsider who isn't a politician(Trump) to come in, win the vote and become president with the goal of "draining the swamp" "threatening their agenda" and promising to bring down the deep state! It's a perfect plan and Trump is telling Americans what they want to hear and Trump is playing his part very well! Afterall Trump promised to lock Hillary up and she's still free as a damn bird! They're all on the same side working the same agenda and it ain't about helping Americans or helping America! Trump has got the majority of "we the people" mesmerized and spellbound into believing that he's gonna "drain the swamp" clean everything up and save America! I have never in my life seen people so asleep to what's actually going on! My fellow Americans are falling for a HUGE deception believing that Trump is the "savior" everything! It's a trap and the majority of Americans are falling in that trap! Trump is a Zionist and he's the prince of Israel! Sometime back Trump was in Israel attending some ceremony and Trump was given a crown and crowned in that ceremony! I think Trump will win again and when he does he's gonna make antisemitism laws making it illegal for any Americans to criticize Israel for what's happening in Gaza! There goes our freedom of speech right there! These facts that I just mentioned should concern every American but my fellow Americans are completely blind to this! Trump will sell America and Americans out over Israel the first chance he gets! It's all a huge psyop deception and my fellow Americans are too busy drinking the "Trump kool-aid" and they're in a drunken stupor of false hopium believing that Trump is the "savior" and Americans are pacified! I keep telling my husband that Trump will be your new world order president! What I see and notice is extremely painful for me to watch take place while I wish that my fellow Americans would wake up and stop drinking that "Trump kool-aid" and actually sober up from their false hopium stupor and let's get busy saving our country ourselves! But, sadly, I think America is already gone because too many people cannot see that they are getting played! Trump is one of them and working the globalists agenda! I don't vote and I haven't voted in years nor have I registered to vote in years! I actually don't think that any more elections will happen after this one! I'm focusing my energy and attention on finding a place offgrid to join, hopefully before the shit does hit the fan! I wish I felt better about things but whoever wins this election, is not gonna benefit "we the people" its gonna get worse! Me and my husband actually made a deal with each other yesterday being that we don't talk about the election at all for 1week just to see how things go, because he said that we might not be alive a week from now considering how tense things are! After a week, if we're both still alive, then we'll see where things are!

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

I'm in full agreement, Amii. When I replied to Ubetcha on free speech, I thought about Trump going hard on 'anti-Semitism.' And yes, I've seen that crown and coin.

This trainwreck is going to continue until it self-implodes. I don't think there's any way to stop it and you shouldn't sacrifice yourself to try.

However, it's my prediction that the 'fallout' is more fear-porn. See my comment to Tonika about imagining the hip gay grannies across the street dressed like Rambo with their little dogs carrying the extra ammo wearing pickelhaube (spiked helmets).

I could always be wrong, but I think this is going to end with a whimper, not a bang. The neo-cons are fighting with the zio-cons over the spoils, and the 'spoils' are still alive and kicking. By that I mean the RoW--Rest of World, whether that's the BRICS or something else, if Russia and China prove to be corrupt too. Either way, things are changing and it's different than the slow boiling frog. For that I'm glad.

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Amii's avatar

Yeah I saw that comment about the hip gay grannies! 😆 And let's hope it self-implodes and destroys itself!

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Tereza Coraggio's avatar

One of the memes on the attached posts said, "Voting means you lose your right to complain about the results." I think we all agree on this thread that Trump is the anointed one and you will get your wish. I promise to be just as circumspect as I am with my vaxxed friends and not say, "I told you so."

You're listing the hot button issues that keep us divided. Are you okay with living in a banker-run world that's anti-trans, anti-abortion, and anti-gay marriage? There's no way you can say with a straight face that Mr. Warp Speed didn't play his part in the CovidCon. Or that he's anti-war, the Zionist Messiah chosen by 163 orthodox rabbis and funded with $100M by Miriam Adelson on the condition he helps Israel clear the West Bank. And free speech? No censorship? Do you really think he wasn't part of the Jan 6 setup to trick his supporters into a trap that would galvanize his base at their expense?

But JD Vance seems to be the banker's chosen one. I recommend listening to the Corbett-Webb interview and reading the linked article in a comment on Thiel. However, unlike some I cited, I don't think NOT voting will change anything more than voting will. So the results of your predictions will be evident soon enough. Interesting times, and thanks for reading!

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