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May 3, 2023ยทedited May 4, 2023Author

I'm going to add my own comment because I was doing the calculations on YT:

12 Federations of 30M people

144 Republics of 2.5M people

1800 Commonwealths of 200K people

20K Villages of 20K people

250K Districts of 1400 people

3M Neighborhoods of 120 people

Six levels of division into 12 gets us to Dunbar's number with some room to grow.

It would look so much prettier in Base 12 ;-)

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Hiya, thank you for the shout out Tereza, I meant to thank you for putting me on to this link and interview in the first place, I found it really helpful in answering my questions about why the weather modification is going on.

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Oh you did get that from my post! I'm so glad. I had saved it for an episode on geoengineering from awhile back but then had so much material I never dived back in. I was really grateful that you did and summarized it for me. Thanks!

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May 3, 2023ยทedited May 3, 2023Liked by Tereza Coraggio

Yes, I kept meaning to thank you and tell you that I'd written on it. Someone said we don't write because we understand, but we understand because we write, I found it very helpful to get my thoughts in order listening to the podcast and them writing about it.

You're very welcome, keep it coming!

Jo

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Yes, I really liked that quote you had on your Substack and I've been meaning to use it. Thanks for reminding me where I'd seen it! I definitely relate to that.

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May 3, 2023Liked by Tereza Coraggio

Your discussion of the duodecimal system prompts me to mention that Hugh Evans, author of "The Origin of The Zodiac," has recently also published "The Origin of Numbers:"

"The numbers we use today are extremely old, with very important meanings individually and when considered together. They were named to reflect their meanings by a people who understood the universe. This happened so long ago that we had almost lost touch." Pre-Noah!

Hugh is now working on "The Origin of Time"!

https://www.youtube.com/@originofthezodiac9856

https://originofthezodiac.com/author/hugh-evans/

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Ohhh fascinating, right up my alley. I love the etymology of names along with the origins of organizations of thinking systems, aka paradigms. The link I put in on the duodecimal system also talks about a culture with base-60 and how our system of counting time derived from that. I'll check him out! I love the idea of someone who 'applies his professional scrutiny to his passion.'

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May 4, 2023ยทedited May 4, 2023Liked by Tereza Coraggio

In that case, Tereza, you will probably also enjoy this, which also includes a discussion of how the first 60 Fibonacci numbers encode time:

"Gnostic & Kabalah Gods, sounds and times decoded - with Luke"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmq73R5z_cs&list=PLp2t5UaSr3P_oSOoM8aNWhVx7yOWYYHPo&index=3&t=2921s

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Telling the truth from the top may be an impossible order for a President. Perhaps "more honesty than we've seen, and on key truths", if not "somebody with the fortitude to handle a transitional crisis as well as possible on behalf of people, broadly." If nothing else, the robber barons recognize the relationship between self-interest and group interest.

If we can't have everything, we should at least seek something critical.

Cheers.

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Hello again Tereza,

I received my copy of "How to dismantle an empire" today.

I love the cover illustration. Do you think they will every make a doritos flavor with the startled eye of Sauron being assaulted by small black ink figures?

The I thought "who draw this illustration"? I go to read the credits page and find that the artist is some "Leah Noble Art and Design." Great work for a mere individual artist!

The copyright notice is the most original and Christian copyright notice ever.

About the ineffable name of Thich Nhat Hahn. I always avoid that name for the anxiety I get because I don't know how the pasteur* is that pronounced, with all those "h" letters. I'm a millennial, I get anxiety because I live in the moment. LOL

*Pasteur is used here as an expletive word here.

I'm going to read this book thoroughly and compare and contrast with "How to think about the economy" by Per Bylund and the collectivist volume "Anarchy and the law" by Stringham, and the collected works of Bastiat.

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Haha! I love the idea of the Eye of Sauron Doritos. What would the flavor be? Rancid gorgonzola with crickets?

The cover illustration was a process. I had a definite image in mind and did some sketches. In a prior (pre-Amazon) edition, I had a neighbor render it, who is a retired anthropology professor and cartoonist. She photoshopped petrodactyls by combining mining drills with the prehistoric flying around the pyramid, with a very startled Eye. It was cute but not a professional as I wanted. So a friend referred me to Leah, and I love her design. It makes me so proud of my book!

I can't actually claim the 'copyright' as original. I think I took it straight from Creative Commons or someone else. But that's consistent with the intent ;-)

I once gave a talk to a small group on Thich Nhat Hahn and pronounced it 'thick' until someone corrected me.

Thanks for the compare and contrast, I'll look forward to hearing about that.

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That monk needs a real western name that is easy to pronounce like Guybrush Threepwood or Gรผnther Trinkenschuh or Mathilda Schimmelpfennig. Those are easy to pronounce and remember, by comparison.

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Maybe Pfarpfegnugen.

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haha

I didn't know that one.

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I'm sorry to hear about the impending destruction of the Food Bin. I used to shop there way back in the mid-70s while attending UCSC.

We also share a connection to Atascadero, where my younger son now lives with his family. It was 105 degrees there in September last year when I visited; I'm hoping it won't be quite that hot for this year's visit.

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I noticed many chemtrails while in Atascadero, so that may temper things. Although not like SC where a summer without sun seems to be the plan. I've been waiting until I could hang my laundry since I got back to CA April 25th. I'm finally giving up and using the dryer today. We're living under-river, like tadpoles.

We loved both Atascadero and Paso Robles. My birthday dinner was at Don Q's, which you probably know. Delicious!

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May 5, 2023Liked by Tereza Coraggio

I want to share the work of my friend Niki Raapana here with you. She passed away last year and many are not familiar with the work she and her daughter began years ago to warn of what was planned. This came up in my memories on fakebook yesterday. https://nikiraapana.blogspot.com/2012/06/green-virgin-pachamama-final-balance.html?m=1&fbclid=IwAR3M4c886h98yNXfyFuZhhk0zUx5dyFXBXRspm24CO69FxnseuNlcAWNlps&mibextid=Zxz2cZ. Itโ€™s a post she made in 2012. A couple of years prior she and her daughter Nordica published a book called 2020 Our Common Destiny here is a link to the pdf version http://nord.twu.net/acl/ebookdownload/2020_ebook.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0v772oD9AfLr5YNxC3X_mRbu8XkO5YHLW4EPqIx8rXqOgtagWCRyIWCjY. Several years ago I made a video I titled What the Heck is Communitarianism, to share their work https://rumble.com/v18nj0c-what-the-heck-is-communitarianism.html underneath the video are links to additional info on Communitarianism.

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Thank you, Teresa, I will read these with great interest and watch your video!

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May 4, 2023Liked by Tereza Coraggio

Just some random tangential thoughts prompted by (and blamed on) your preference for a base-12 number system and your mention that the reason we have a 10-base number system is because it made arithmetic easier for our ten-digit species, which one of my college math professors actually claimed in a class in which we were taught to use binary (base-2), duodecimal (base-12), and hexadecimal (base-16) number systems.

- Approximately one in every 500 babies is born with an extra digit, which is called polydactylism. Routinely, these extra digits are removed. Why?

- Research shows that polydactyl humans can use keyboards and screens faster, and they can tie their shoes with one hand. (Iโ€™m not joking.)

- Polydactyls not only have additional bone, soft tissue, and nerves in their hands and forearms, but also have additional neural structure in the brain needed for dexterity of the additional digits. ( Iโ€™m surprised the Yankees havenโ€™t bred, trained, and recruited a giant polydactyl pitcher who, theoretically, could throw a sin-wave double-curve ball. God knows they need one.)

- Biblical โ€œgiantsโ€ were called Nephilim (โ€œthe fallen onesโ€) and resulted from the mating of the โ€œsons of Godโ€ and the โ€œdaughters of Adam.โ€ The use of the term โ€œgiantsโ€ probably results from the mistranslation of ancient Hebrew into the classical Greek Septuagint, which evoked images of the Titans. In fact, Nephilim may be much larger than mortal humans, though not always. They are, however, always stronger, more aggressive, and also polydactyl. They were/are always male.

- Some suggest that the Biblical flood was actually intended to exterminate these giant polydactyl fallen angel hybrid offspring of the sons of God and the daughters of Eve. However, they somehow survived The Floodโ€”Goliath being a notable example. This raises interesting questions, including whether Nephilim stowed away on the Ark, or whether Noah and/or members of his family were themselves genetic giant polydactyl Luciferian angel hybrids, and possibly suggesting that big-G God may have either been trying to improve on his disappointing short, weak, passive, five-digit human creations or improve on his disobedient fallen angels. (Considering that some believe Jinn were big-G Godโ€™s first creation, angels second, and humans third, He is having a dickens of a time getting His creation right.)

- The Huaorani tribe in Ecuador allegedly has both a much higher rate of polydactylism and are also abnormally aggressive, which is born out by their extremely high homicide rate.

- Antonio Pigafetta, chronicler of Ferdinand Magellanโ€™s expedition, described giants in Patagonia in the 1520s. While virtually everything else that Pigafetta recorded is considered accurate, the library at Princeton University wants us to know that the tribe of giants encountered by Magellan is a myth. (I remember when librarians just helped us find books and left the conclusions to us.)

- 3.5% of those who lived in the ancient Chaco Canyon site in New Mexico were polydactyl.

Lastly, duodecimal 10 (i.e. decimal 12) is divisible by 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6. If you discover that RFK, Jr is an anti-duodecimaler, would you still vote for him?

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Oh and you're assuming that I'm voting for RFK? Or voting at all? First show me the candidate with the platform to decentralize and deny the power to create money to the bankers.

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May 4, 2023ยทedited May 4, 2023Author

Jack! I was just thinking of you and happy to see you're still reading me. Very interesting about polydactyls. The word is making me picture them with wings and beaks. What does dactyl mean and why does it apply to both people and dinosaurs?

I just finished reading a novel about 1930's steampunk djinn in Egypt. Oh and lesbian too, checking all the boxes. Pretty fun.

From my episode on Noah, I think we'd have been better off with polydactyls.

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May 5, 2023Liked by Tereza Coraggio

I was a fan of RFK, Jr because of his work with Riverkeeper I knew nothing about his work on childrenโ€™s vaccinations until deep into the pandemic when I read โ€œThe Real Anthony Fauciโ€. When he put out feelers for his presidential run, I was supportive. But I couldnโ€™t even bring myself to watch his announcement speech. However, I was reflexively angry when ABC news censored their own interview with him. But then I had to consider the possibility that ABCโ€™s blatant censorship was just another bit of stage management. Iโ€™m now in that strange space of needing absolute and definitive proof that RFK jr is not just another controlled-opposition Sanders-style stalking horse. Also, I am even beyond refusing to vote in the next election. The strong current of the parallel polis movement is still pulling me along, but Iโ€™m sensing we are even beyond that option.

I watched a couple Marianne Williamson interviews, and something seems to have changed about her since the 2020 campaignโ€”she now both sounds and looks plastic to me. Did she fall asleep and become a pod person? Or did that happen long ago and Iโ€™m just now noticing? (I actually assumed you might favor her over RFK because of your mutual connection to The Course in Miracles.)

Anyway, your comments about breaking the US into regions parallels my thinking, though (since I mentioned Riverkeeper) my own thought is that, especially in the west, it will be essential to align those regions geographically with watersheds. I am reading Alexander Dugin now and must admit Iโ€™m enthralled with his Fourth Political Theory. So I have started thinking about how my state needs a โ€œmulti-polar world transition planโ€, which, of course, requires independence by states/regions from the empire (though perhaps not from the federal government, since I see those as two separate entities). However, Arizona cannot become independent without Colorado, because thatโ€™s where most of the water comes from, and unless there is coordination within the Colorado River watershed, there would be a real war over water between any remnant states that declare independence from the empire. So the region I see as most practical would include Colorado, Arizona, and at least parts of Utah, Nevada and New Mexico, as well as Southern CA. In whatever comes next for the country formerly known as the United States, geography will still be fundamental. Oh, and sorry, Santa Cruz will probably have to spin off into Newsomeland, unless the State of Jefferson emerges in the northern CA hinterlands.

Just a final thought: Perhaps every empire is just a stage in a bigger life cycle. Perhaps every empire dismantles itself. We will soon find out.

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I had the same experience with RFK, except it was his defense of humane animal husbandry. He wrote the foreword to Righteous Porkchop (written btw by a vegetarian lawyer who ended up marrying Niman of Niman Ranch). I've been impressed, especially by the RAF. It's an amazing piece of metajournalism and reflects decades of things he's been working on with no recognition other than negative.

But I feel his goals are much too little, too late. Reducing chronic illness in children or don't re-elect me? At this point that's one small hole in the Titanic. And he's surrounding himself with people I don't trust and his background is the standard POC gender diversity palette.

I did an episode on Marianne awhile back on YT called Spiritual Optimism & Political Radicalism: https://youtu.be/S9MQuUZ_hyM. But even then I was having a hard time mustering enthusiasm for her side of the convo (although I liked Russell's). Her understanding of the Course seems contradictory to me. She talks about the fatal consequences of climate change, I think it is. But the Course would agree with the gnostic gospel of Philip: "How can something die if it has never lived?"

In her campaign video, which I watched, I just didn't feel she had a platform. She's saying the same things as Sanders, imo, with no actual strategy other than free stuff.

But to get to the fun part, you know from my book I'm into Eco-States divided along watersheds. And I'm a big fan of the state of Jefferson. But I don't think we even need to change the States and Federal gov't--give me the power to create money and I care not who writes the laws! I don't want any gov't to control mortgage and credit creation, only a system that has measurable goals and a criteria for meeting them.

I happened to look at the population of Mexico, and it would make four federations of 30M spanning the continent. Canada would make one. For the US, I think you go back from the coasts far enough to encompass 90M people, and then you divide it into three equalish parts.

Tell me more about Alexander Dugin, I want my own multipolar world transition plan!

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May 9, 2023Liked by Tereza Coraggio

IMO, the best intro to Alexander Dugin and his fourth political theory is his short book, "The Great Awakening vs The Great Reset." Last time I looked, it was unavailable anywhere in the US. I purchased a copy from Arktos in the UK.

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May 4, 2023Liked by Tereza Coraggio

Tereza, I think you should call your social/political/economic theory Twelves All The Way Down.

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A particularly good joke coming from you, Turtledad ;-)

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May 4, 2023Liked by Tereza Coraggio

I know, right? Turtles just keep showing up! I liked your story about the turtle shell in your conversation with Matt. Would you repeat it please? BTW, my daughters gave me the turtledad moniker when they were younger, and that means I have to keep it, right?

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Yes, and the link goes to an account of it as well. In the Cherokee story, turtle's shell breaks into pieces and Creator says, "from now on your shell will have a new purpose. You will have thirteen spaces on your back for the thirteen moons in a year and twenty-eight spaces around your shell for the number of days in a moon. You will also be the Keeper of Knowledge, and you will live a longer life than all the other forest creatures."

In others I've heard it's 26 spaces around the edge and 28 with the head and tail counted. But I'd need a turtle to verify.

It always seemed odd to me that our calendars change so much. Why does Feb have 28 days and others 31? Why isn't the new moon on the same day? But it never occurred to me that it was 13 moon cycles to one around the sun. And the same site says: "The calendar on Turtleโ€™s back equals 364 days. The Cherokee and many other tribes have 365 days in their year. The extra day is the Green Corn day which is usually in midsummer when the corn crop is new and holds the promise of a good harvest. On this day, all offenses are forgiven, and great feasts are prepared and eaten. This is the day that everything starts anew."

Now I'm curious as to how your daughters dubbed you turtledad?

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May 5, 2023Liked by Tereza Coraggio

Thank you! I like the 13 month 28 days each calendar much better than the mess we have now. I do like the extra day for forgiveness. We need more of that in the world, don't we. There would also still have to be a leap day every 4 years to make up for the 1/4 day per year that the earth's spinning doesn't exactly line up with it's journey around the sun.

My daughters thought me wise and smart, and I have always been introverted (drawing into my shell). They also liked the story of the tortoise and the hare, and saw me as the slow, methodical type that wins in the end. I also gave them lots of stuffed animal and figurine turtles too, so there's always that.

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Me too! The only downside I see is that your birthday would always be the same day but in my fiefdom, we'd all be working for ourselves except for apprenticing and co-ops. So the weekend could be obsolete along with the stingy two-week vacation. Leap year babies should get fireworks.

Lucky you to have such perceptive daughters!

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May 5, 2023Liked by Tereza Coraggio

For non-religious people and those who have escaped wage and debt slavery, naming the days of the week seems arbitrary and sometimes annoying. Every day can be a work day, a play day, and a spiritual day. All we ever have is the present day, so why set aside certain days as special? Government sanctioned holidays get under my skin. Whether intentional or not, to me they feel like just another psyop to herd everyone this way or that. The word holiday itself reminds me who the master is and who the slave is. Try taking any old day off and calling it your personal holiday. It won't go well. People will try to shame you back into conformity.

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420ร—12=Plato's number

2ร—12ร—12ร—12+11ร—12ร—12

5,040 people is the best number of population for one sovereign country.

I guess that does not include the children. (Did Plato ever thought about the children?)

I like twelve. 7+5 is also the number of notes and accidentals in the octave.

But seven and five are awkward numbers, the seven in particular. Although 7 = 3 + 1 + 3 and everyone likes one and three.

What symbols can we use for 10 and 11?

So, in a base 12 system, 10 means 12 in decimal. The tradition would be to use A=10 B=11; so B ร— A = 92, because 9ร—12+2=108+2=110=10ร—11;

Exercise proposed to the reader: 476 in base 12 is what much feared number in base 10?

On qwerty: as you probably know, the myth goes that the rows are offset to prevent jamming; if the keys were perfectly square to each other, as in the numerical key pad to the right, people would write too fast, and the little metallic bars in the typing machine would jam and the typist must then stop to undo the jam and be less Germa... er... I mean, less productive.

Also the distribution does not follow the alphabetic order, plus many languages use รฑ รฟ รŸ รง ร˜ ล‚ ั รฆ รพ. There is an element of vanity in diacritic signs and digraphs. There is also an element of vanity in the excessively simple 26 letter English alphabet.

I think in the francophonie they use le azerty layout, where the q and w exchange places with a and z. Probably they don't, not even the frogs are that smug.

I have always missed keys in the keyboard, and in characters in the ASCII code. For instance, the symbols รท โ€” โ€” ร— and others should have a dedicated key. Also the always beautiful quotes โ€œโ€ and the ยซยป.

A system that works for everyone? Perhaps reliable programable keyboards with lcd display keys instead of keycaps, such that any user can change the layout with one key or key chord.

It is difficult to change a long established tradition based in error. QWERTY was an error, a huge error, a painful horror, a depressing absurdity. Not unlike the evil SMTP standard used for email.

About digits as base 10. The four fingers have each three phalanges. And the thumb can help with powers of 12, and the other hand is also free to count and memorize things.

ALL HISTORY IS PFAKE!!!

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Excellent, juicy comment, Roger, so much good info on my pet quirky passions!

I'm guessing that 476 in Base-12 is the birthday I'll be in 600 yrs when I reach full Satanic maturity rather than just being 2/3rd demon as I am now (a joke, people!)

I didn't realize about the offset on QWERTY but that makes sense, like the accidentals on a keyboard. And there are reprogrammable keyboards--I think the link goes to someone who sells them.

I wonder why Plato liked 420 x 12. Do you know? The 11 in the equation seems especially odd.

In my chapter Too Small to Fail, I talk about different sizes fitting different functions. For instance resources that go under the ground and over the ground are something that needs to belong, in some sense, to the whole continent--not just where it comes close to the surface.

I quote from Ian Baldwin in "The Secessionist Option" that when the Declaration of Independence was written there were over 18,000 sovereign political entities around 45K people each. The founding colonies were around 200K each, about the size of my commonwealth.

In my book, I put trading blocs at around 360M, federations around 30M, EcoStates at 2.5M, commonwealths at 200K, districts at 17K and villages at 1500 (reversed from above.) But I also picture them as honeycombed so that each one includes the ones on their borders, so no one's left on the edge. Functions are pushed down to the lowest possible level.

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