Puppies are nice, but I'm more inclined to felines ...🐈
The post was so interesting to me, because since 2006 I am in Libya, uninterrupted. I almost heard the assassins' bullet ... and have most vivid acoustic and visual memories of the banker's guided missiles to Tripoli & surroundings...
That's really interesting. I fell for the anti-Qaddafi propaganda until I read Vijay Prashad's Arab Spring, Libyan Winter. It was a real lesson in how upside down even the independent news was. And so many threads tying it all together, the underwater cables, the Pan-African dinar, the French embassy with its underground tunnel, the rigged elections, Laurent Gbagbo.
I can't believe how little people, myself included, know about the African franc and how it controls the economies of every country. I saw a meme recently that listed all the things Qaddafi did for the people with the headline: The opposite of 'you will own nothing and be happy.' Thanks for reading!
Quote: "This centralization would prove to be his downfall."
Centralization vs. Decentralization is a main issue we need to discuss about your book.
As stated in your book, true democracy requires decentralization. Also centralization enables abuse of power and rise of empire. I agree with both.
What I question, is that democracy is the favored form of governance.
My research indicates that development necessitates centralized power. Naturally empowering the base is essential to provide guidance to national policies. This is the case in both Russia, Iran and China.
I'm looking forward to that discussion, Fadi, and haven't forgotten it. I have some ideas I'm working on. Yes, I don't know if I'd use as loaded a term as democracy today. It's taken for granted to be representative democracy, which I think is a contradiction in terms.
What I would look at today is an economic system of anarchy or federalism that pushes decisions to the lowest practical level. If the economic system was decentralized, I wonder if you'd even need to worry about the form of government. The local would have the power of the pursestrings.
But I'm curious as to your thoughts on the favored form of governance. It sound like you have some ideas. The situations seem different in that the US feels overdeveloped. Raising the standard of living isn't our problem, I think, as much as taking back responsibility for ourselves. Your thoughts?
This is THE MAJOR topic for discussion. Despite coming from different view points, we could possibly reach a consensus. This would be a great topic for a zoom meeting.
The Chinese system may provide some insight. Whereas it appears highly centralized to external observers, it actually contains ingredients of your proposals. Rising in the political echelon starts from assuming elected positions in a village or town. Whomever distinguishes oneself in this position is elected/selected to a higher position, this process continues to the highest positions. A major mistake can nullify all. For example:
China gives suspended death sentence to former top banker
"Among the 72 billionaires, 15 were murdered, 17 committed suicide, seven died from accidents, 14 were executed according to the law and 19 died from diseases."
More recently the newly appointed minister of foreign affairs was found to have an affair. This being not appropriate for representative of a nation, he was dismissed.
I think rather than rediscover the wheel, as in PhD research, we should do a "literature search" study successful and failing models of governance, after having decided on indicators of success and failure of governance.
Here's a scenario to play with. Imagine that at birth, you become a commoner of a commonwealth. For the rest of your life, you're always entitled to a share of the wealth if you reside there and don't have commoner status elsewhere (no dual citizenship, Israelis!) You participate in decisions equally, there are administrators to implement those decisions but they don't have any power to make them.
If you reside in another commonwealth for whatever time they set, you can become a commoner there. Places who want more people can set it low, overcrowded places can set it higher. There are no bankers or gov't officials to be corrupt. There's no power to be usurped.
I can't think of a project that couldn't be accomplished by a network of like-minded people in different commonwealths. All of the problems that we now have laws and prisons to handle, I think could be done through logistics of the economic model.
And YES to that zoom call. I think perhaps you and I should talk directly, recording it to post. We have so much to talk about! I either need to figure out my technology or engage one of my tech-savvy collaborators. Let me think on that.
no dual citizenship, Israelis! lol lol gave me a hearty laugh!!!
My thinking is influenced by big projects, steel mills, railways, dams, big factories, nuclear power plants, etc. that's why I'm focused on models of governance that enable achievement of such projects.
Sure for Zoom meeting. I typically divide my time between quiet mountain house and action filled Beirut lol. mostly bombing action nowadays... last Saturday they bombed a scooter shop, killing 4 Syrian guys and one woman lost a leg. This place was 300 meters from my Beirut residence. Today they launched 2 missiles at a car being driven by a woman on the highway, she passed away.
By the way, I have started to understand the war strategy adopted by the Resistance Axis:
Gradually and steadily escalate the war both in geography and intensity. Creating increasing pressure on the settlers in Palestine and the Empire in Southwest Asia.
Imagine you are in a room, in which the walls are slowly but steadily closing in on you, and you are unable to stop the movement of the walls, at some point you realize you will be crushed.
Already you can sense divisions within the settler community, between their army and political leadership and same in the USA. So the strategy is working.
This will go on for another year I guess. The final objective being the removal of the settlers from the region and also ending the Empire's presence in Southwest Asia and also removing the Empire's vassals... the oil monarchies
In the US, it was the railways that created the robber barons by monopolizing transportation. I used to belong to the Grange, a farmer coalition from the 1920's. They'd been active in the Populist movement, saying that they weren't against anyone adding value but had no need for middlemen. They built their own grain mills and were the major force behind trying to get silver monetized, to break the 'Cross of Gold' that William Jennings Bryan talked about. They were defeated by FDR, who stole the rhetoric without the system changes. It's this 'American system' that Feder based his theories on, from what I've heard.
With for-profit development or 'public-private partnerships' (the public takes the risk, the private takes the profit) the people have been betrayed. On dams, look at New Orleans and recently, North Carolina. With nuclear power plants, once the reality of no oil sets in, commonwealths can issue whatever debt they need in dollars, which then becomes a debt to themselves that the energy generated can repay--and that can be issued in advance as energy subsidies. It takes advantage of national buying power without losing control.
Oh, Fadi, you really are in the thick of it! Be careful, my friend. After slipping past that oncoming truck, you only have eight lives left!
And I think that is a good strategy. I'm not in agreement with Oliver B-B that Iran needs to attack Israel now. I think the slow pressure better serves the purpose, along with the economic embargoes and trade isolation. But that's easier for me to say from a distance, here in the belly of the beast.
Quote: "They were defeated by FDR, who stole the rhetoric without the system changes."
He stole the gold too lol
Quote: "With for-profit development or 'public-private partnerships' "
Absolutely NEVER! Banking, education, healthcare, public transport, rails, ports, telecommunication, water, gas, electricity authorities, etc all should be public. In particular healthcare and education should be free for all.
Private sector limited to small and medium enterprises. Large multi-billion manufacturing corporations, where economy of scale is essential, also government owned.
A lot can be learned by evaluating models of governance, after we establish indicators for good quality of community and human life.
We can lay many of the problems in the world at the feet of central bankers. Unbridled greed and thirst for power have enslaved countless millions over many decades, and there does not appear to be anything or anyone who can release the stranglehold that bankers have us trapped in. Would that more people understood only this aspect of how the world works. Thanks for sharing.
Agreed with your first statement, Joe, but not the second. The whole point of my book is how we can release the stranglehold that bankers have us trapped in. There was a time when I didn't know if I'd live long enough to see my plan put into action. But the empire is now dismantling itself at such an accelerated rate that something will certainly replace it, whether my plan or another one. I trace how money has enslaved countless millions since its inception 3500 yrs ago. But that's coming to a crisis point, which is another word for opportunity. IMO.
Daniel Kristos (Ba'al Busters) can be a bit all over the place but this is an excellent presentation and compilation of what was done to Libya. ("They" have now directed their hate against Nationalist China.)
• Nationalism is a Fight for Mankind – Daniel Kristos - Ba'al Busters
i am totaly agreeing with everything on that chapter, in the question box i pick ceiling the bank account qaddafi style. Yes i would totaly put ceiling, as every house as a ceiling, every job , human rights, territories, public space, should have a ceiling. And mostly have limits already in place, but over time turned into initiate advantage. How about ceiling the sports player? that was the first time i tought about having limits to wealth. Now whats fun is to put a fictive cap, deduct all the money made over that by every hollywood movie. and have fun utopicly redistributing this overwhelming wealth trought society by different means.
thanks! on to the next chapter =) really good deep dive on qadaffy! excellent
Don't fall for Pieczenik's story that he's been a white-hat for 19 years, though. When he was on InfoWars in 2014 he was celebrating the intentional destruction of Russia's economy and predicting the FSB would remove Putin.
B R I L L I A N T !!!
Your post is "molto coraggioso" .
Thank you so much 👍👍👍
Thank you so much, Klaus. I'm guessing you came here from Edward's. It's a fun convo there, and puppies make everything so much better ;-)
You're most welcome.
Puppies are nice, but I'm more inclined to felines ...🐈
The post was so interesting to me, because since 2006 I am in Libya, uninterrupted. I almost heard the assassins' bullet ... and have most vivid acoustic and visual memories of the banker's guided missiles to Tripoli & surroundings...
That's really interesting. I fell for the anti-Qaddafi propaganda until I read Vijay Prashad's Arab Spring, Libyan Winter. It was a real lesson in how upside down even the independent news was. And so many threads tying it all together, the underwater cables, the Pan-African dinar, the French embassy with its underground tunnel, the rigged elections, Laurent Gbagbo.
I can't believe how little people, myself included, know about the African franc and how it controls the economies of every country. I saw a meme recently that listed all the things Qaddafi did for the people with the headline: The opposite of 'you will own nothing and be happy.' Thanks for reading!
Quote: "This centralization would prove to be his downfall."
Centralization vs. Decentralization is a main issue we need to discuss about your book.
As stated in your book, true democracy requires decentralization. Also centralization enables abuse of power and rise of empire. I agree with both.
What I question, is that democracy is the favored form of governance.
My research indicates that development necessitates centralized power. Naturally empowering the base is essential to provide guidance to national policies. This is the case in both Russia, Iran and China.
I'm looking forward to that discussion, Fadi, and haven't forgotten it. I have some ideas I'm working on. Yes, I don't know if I'd use as loaded a term as democracy today. It's taken for granted to be representative democracy, which I think is a contradiction in terms.
What I would look at today is an economic system of anarchy or federalism that pushes decisions to the lowest practical level. If the economic system was decentralized, I wonder if you'd even need to worry about the form of government. The local would have the power of the pursestrings.
But I'm curious as to your thoughts on the favored form of governance. It sound like you have some ideas. The situations seem different in that the US feels overdeveloped. Raising the standard of living isn't our problem, I think, as much as taking back responsibility for ourselves. Your thoughts?
cannot help it... WOW! lol
This is THE MAJOR topic for discussion. Despite coming from different view points, we could possibly reach a consensus. This would be a great topic for a zoom meeting.
The Chinese system may provide some insight. Whereas it appears highly centralized to external observers, it actually contains ingredients of your proposals. Rising in the political echelon starts from assuming elected positions in a village or town. Whomever distinguishes oneself in this position is elected/selected to a higher position, this process continues to the highest positions. A major mistake can nullify all. For example:
China gives suspended death sentence to former top banker
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/06/business/china-death-sentence-bank-chief-corruption-intl-hnk/index.html
and another banker:
China sentences top banker to death for corruption and bigamy
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/05/china-sentences-top-banker-to-death-for-corruption-and-bigamy
Better yet:
Being rich in China is no funny business:
"Among the 72 billionaires, 15 were murdered, 17 committed suicide, seven died from accidents, 14 were executed according to the law and 19 died from diseases."
https://x.com/yangxifan/status/1465537679882260492?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1465537679882260492%7Ctwgr%5E7e04f2d4bac28cf4987dd34835d30c86a90ca457%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmoguldom.com%2F384320%2Freport-out-of-72-billionaires-in-china-14-were-executed-by-government-15-murdered-and-17-committed-suicide%2F
More recently the newly appointed minister of foreign affairs was found to have an affair. This being not appropriate for representative of a nation, he was dismissed.
I think rather than rediscover the wheel, as in PhD research, we should do a "literature search" study successful and failing models of governance, after having decided on indicators of success and failure of governance.
Here's a scenario to play with. Imagine that at birth, you become a commoner of a commonwealth. For the rest of your life, you're always entitled to a share of the wealth if you reside there and don't have commoner status elsewhere (no dual citizenship, Israelis!) You participate in decisions equally, there are administrators to implement those decisions but they don't have any power to make them.
If you reside in another commonwealth for whatever time they set, you can become a commoner there. Places who want more people can set it low, overcrowded places can set it higher. There are no bankers or gov't officials to be corrupt. There's no power to be usurped.
I can't think of a project that couldn't be accomplished by a network of like-minded people in different commonwealths. All of the problems that we now have laws and prisons to handle, I think could be done through logistics of the economic model.
And YES to that zoom call. I think perhaps you and I should talk directly, recording it to post. We have so much to talk about! I either need to figure out my technology or engage one of my tech-savvy collaborators. Let me think on that.
no dual citizenship, Israelis! lol lol gave me a hearty laugh!!!
My thinking is influenced by big projects, steel mills, railways, dams, big factories, nuclear power plants, etc. that's why I'm focused on models of governance that enable achievement of such projects.
Sure for Zoom meeting. I typically divide my time between quiet mountain house and action filled Beirut lol. mostly bombing action nowadays... last Saturday they bombed a scooter shop, killing 4 Syrian guys and one woman lost a leg. This place was 300 meters from my Beirut residence. Today they launched 2 missiles at a car being driven by a woman on the highway, she passed away.
By the way, I have started to understand the war strategy adopted by the Resistance Axis:
Gradually and steadily escalate the war both in geography and intensity. Creating increasing pressure on the settlers in Palestine and the Empire in Southwest Asia.
Imagine you are in a room, in which the walls are slowly but steadily closing in on you, and you are unable to stop the movement of the walls, at some point you realize you will be crushed.
Already you can sense divisions within the settler community, between their army and political leadership and same in the USA. So the strategy is working.
This will go on for another year I guess. The final objective being the removal of the settlers from the region and also ending the Empire's presence in Southwest Asia and also removing the Empire's vassals... the oil monarchies
In the US, it was the railways that created the robber barons by monopolizing transportation. I used to belong to the Grange, a farmer coalition from the 1920's. They'd been active in the Populist movement, saying that they weren't against anyone adding value but had no need for middlemen. They built their own grain mills and were the major force behind trying to get silver monetized, to break the 'Cross of Gold' that William Jennings Bryan talked about. They were defeated by FDR, who stole the rhetoric without the system changes. It's this 'American system' that Feder based his theories on, from what I've heard.
With for-profit development or 'public-private partnerships' (the public takes the risk, the private takes the profit) the people have been betrayed. On dams, look at New Orleans and recently, North Carolina. With nuclear power plants, once the reality of no oil sets in, commonwealths can issue whatever debt they need in dollars, which then becomes a debt to themselves that the energy generated can repay--and that can be issued in advance as energy subsidies. It takes advantage of national buying power without losing control.
Oh, Fadi, you really are in the thick of it! Be careful, my friend. After slipping past that oncoming truck, you only have eight lives left!
And I think that is a good strategy. I'm not in agreement with Oliver B-B that Iran needs to attack Israel now. I think the slow pressure better serves the purpose, along with the economic embargoes and trade isolation. But that's easier for me to say from a distance, here in the belly of the beast.
Quote: "They were defeated by FDR, who stole the rhetoric without the system changes."
He stole the gold too lol
Quote: "With for-profit development or 'public-private partnerships' "
Absolutely NEVER! Banking, education, healthcare, public transport, rails, ports, telecommunication, water, gas, electricity authorities, etc all should be public. In particular healthcare and education should be free for all.
Private sector limited to small and medium enterprises. Large multi-billion manufacturing corporations, where economy of scale is essential, also government owned.
A lot can be learned by evaluating models of governance, after we establish indicators for good quality of community and human life.
We can lay many of the problems in the world at the feet of central bankers. Unbridled greed and thirst for power have enslaved countless millions over many decades, and there does not appear to be anything or anyone who can release the stranglehold that bankers have us trapped in. Would that more people understood only this aspect of how the world works. Thanks for sharing.
Agreed with your first statement, Joe, but not the second. The whole point of my book is how we can release the stranglehold that bankers have us trapped in. There was a time when I didn't know if I'd live long enough to see my plan put into action. But the empire is now dismantling itself at such an accelerated rate that something will certainly replace it, whether my plan or another one. I trace how money has enslaved countless millions since its inception 3500 yrs ago. But that's coming to a crisis point, which is another word for opportunity. IMO.
• Max Igan on LSNT - Final Chessboard – thecrowhouse
https://odysee.com/@thecrowhouse:2/Max-Igan-on-LSNT---Final-Chessboard:a
Just adding to the dossier ...
Daniel Kristos (Ba'al Busters) can be a bit all over the place but this is an excellent presentation and compilation of what was done to Libya. ("They" have now directed their hate against Nationalist China.)
• Nationalism is a Fight for Mankind – Daniel Kristos - Ba'al Busters
https://rumble.com/v6r308w-nationalism-is-a-fight-for-mankind.html
i am totaly agreeing with everything on that chapter, in the question box i pick ceiling the bank account qaddafi style. Yes i would totaly put ceiling, as every house as a ceiling, every job , human rights, territories, public space, should have a ceiling. And mostly have limits already in place, but over time turned into initiate advantage. How about ceiling the sports player? that was the first time i tought about having limits to wealth. Now whats fun is to put a fictive cap, deduct all the money made over that by every hollywood movie. and have fun utopicly redistributing this overwhelming wealth trought society by different means.
thanks! on to the next chapter =) really good deep dive on qadaffy! excellent
• Lizzie Phelan journalist during her visit to Libya what happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFrmFvxhibM
• Lizzie Phelan, Journalist LIBYA Death threats from CNN NATO - YouTube.flv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbwMc-zQKfU
• NATO and Libya - Secretary General's Statement on the Situation in Libya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2EpSYhhe0w
While I read/listen on, this is actually about Libya and Gaddafi – the video title implies a warning to Duterte
• WARNING! TRUTH BEHIND PRESIDENT DUTERTE EXPOSE AGAINST THE US/EU THAT MAY COST HIM HIS OWN LIFE - Donny The Donkey channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO0NN7z9Z7E
Norway is suffering from the Dutch disease as we speak!
My immediate impression upon learning of the flooding in Libya was that this town was a deep-state stronghold and that there were underground facilities that had to be cleared out by the Alliance and then flooded to prevent bad actors from returning to them. https://inscribedonthebelievingmind.blog/2022/07/03/liberation-of-antarctica-and-dark-fleet-bases-sept-27-2021/
Here's a very informative interview of CIA psychiatrist Steve Pieczenik on Alex Jones. https://www.bitchute.com/video/uifwEQ6dFmL8/
Don't fall for Pieczenik's story that he's been a white-hat for 19 years, though. When he was on InfoWars in 2014 he was celebrating the intentional destruction of Russia's economy and predicting the FSB would remove Putin.