Black Pill Hatfill & Malone
anthrax, ebola and zika, oh my!
This is in response to a Tommy’s podcast interview on June 8, 2023 of Robert Malone and Stephen Hatfill, author of 3 Seconds to Midnight, talking about Pandemic Preparedness. I found this on Mark Kulacz’s Housatonics Live because I’ll be doing a live interview with him on Wednesday, July 26 at 7 pm EDT. This is thanks to Vilma at La Gata Politica, who set this in motion. And JJ Couey would also like to do a future interview! I sent him a note suggesting we dissect this video but it turns out he was already doing it on his Throwback Thursday Study Hall, so I’ll include some of his thoughts here.
I feel this is a major shift for Malone, where the mask is coming off, and I think it’s part of the pivot to Trump—along with Paul Alexander’s peace treaty for Trump’s sake. The video and the text below are not redundant and have new information:
Who is Stephen Hatfill? Hatfill is who Malone quoted in my last video saying that the vaxx should only be given to really sick kids ‘who are going to die anyhow.’ Malone introduces him here as “the esteemed Dr. Hatfill who I am not going to confront with his relationships with the intelligence community.” They talk like two good old boys sharing insider stories with acronyms, names and technical gobbledygook.
JJ says this is part of the Scooby-Doo: there’s a lot of lingo that no one understands, and then they say things that you do get, and that makes the understandable points stick. JJ also points out how scripted this is. Tommy shuts up at minute 12, except for occasional ice-crunching. At one point, Malone glances down at his notes. I caught Hatfill responding ‘What?’ prematurely to something Malone was about to say. The laugh track is sometimes ahead of the jokes. But there’s a lotta laughing going on about Ebola and other funny stories.
Hatfill has another insider connection—he was a person of interest in the anthrax attacks when he was working at Ft. Detrick, near my hometown. From the Frederick Times Nov 25, 2008:
On Nov. 17, a federal judge ordered the Justice Department to release the information it used to persuade the courts to let it search the home of a former Army scientist who was exonerated in the 2001 anthrax attacks.
U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth said the governments search warrants and supporting documents relating to former Army scientist Stephen Hatfill and his then-girlfriend Peck Chegne should be made public.
In July, the government exonerated Steven Hatfill, who investigators had publicly named as a "person of interest" in 2002. The documents can be found here: http://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/Anthrax-Case-Info.html
According to a search warrant, among items seized by the FBI in a August 2002 search of Steven Hatfill’s Frederick residence and storage room, were several biohazard items, a plastic bag containing numerous glass slides, one paper bag w/ classified document and cover sheet and a silencer.
According to a search warrant affadavit, 02-459, Hatfill requested and filled several prescriptions for the antibiotic Cipro in the months before and after the anthrax mailings. Cipro is an FDA approved treatment for anthrax infection, according to the documents.
A review of pharmacy business records reveals that exactly two days before the the first anthrax letters were mailed (postmarked) on September 18, 2001, Steven Hatfill filled a prescription for forty 500 mg tablets of Cipro at the CVS pharmacy located near his home in Frederick, Maryland, the record states.
In the Aug. 1, 2002 search of Hatfill's girlfriend's apartment in Washington, D.C., investigators found a container of the antibiotic Cipro prescribed for Peck Chegne inside of a mason jar filled with coffee.
According to the same affidavit seeking a further search warrant (02-0459), FBI agents seemed to believe that a search of two premises, Hatfill’s Frederick apartment and a storage locker in Ocala, Fl., and a vehicle, had not rendered enough evidence. The search was performed with Hatfill’s written consent.
Hours were lost searching the apartment, the agent writes, because Hatfill was allowed to consult with his attorney.
Investigators swabbed each location to try and find anthrax residue (they came up negative); and relevant documents, but not a detailed examinations of Hatfill’s documents and papers.
None of the premises were specifically searched for the presence of hair or textile fibers that may match those recovered from the anthrax letter, the search warrant affidavit from FBI Agent Mark Morin states.
Apparently aware of the effect any revelation about the search warrants would have on Hatfill and Chegne, the government made a request to seal its request for a search warrant for a D.C. residence and a 1994 champagne Toyota Corolla.
Hatfills attorney Thomas Connolly released the following statement at 5:14 p.m.:
Search warrant affidavits are designed to raise suspicion that is their express purpose. But like so much of what has been written about Dr. Hatfill in the past seven years, the affidavits released today cite sources whose names are unknown and whose credibility cannot be tested. Our repeated experience has been that people make wild accusations in secret, only to retract them under public questioning. Whether or not it was right for the government to rely on this kind of information to obtain a search warrant in 2002, we know in 2008 that Steven Hatfill had nothing to do with the anthrax attacks. It will be unfortunate for all involved if the release of these documents misleads anyone into thinking otherwise.
So Hatfill gets advance warning of the ‘raid’ and his girlfriend’s prescription is hidden in coffee beans. The article concludes:
Key dates in the investigation of the anthrax attacks
2001:
October: Anthrax is mailed to lawmakers on Capitol Hill and members of the news media in New York and Florida. By November, five people are dead and 17 others sickened. The victims include postal workers and others who came into contact with the anthrax.
2002:
January: Senate office building where anthrax-tainted letters were sent reopens after three months and fumigation. FBI doubles the reward for helping solve the case to $2.5 million.
June: FBI is scrutinizing 20 to 30 scientists who might have had the knowledge and opportunity to send the anthrax letters, a U.S. official says.
August: Law enforcement officials and Attorney General John Ashcroft call Steven J. Hatfill, a biowarfare expert, a person of interest in the investigation.
2003:
June: FBI drains pond in Frederick, Md., in search of anthrax-related evidence. Frederick is the home of the Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, one of the nations main anthrax research centers. Nothing suspicious is found.
August: Hatfill sues Ashcroft and other government officials, accusing them of using him as a scapegoat and demanding that they clear his name.
December: Postal workers begin moving back into Washingtons main mail center, almost two years after anthrax-laced letters killed two employees. The Brentwood facility underwent more than $130 million worth of decontamination and renovation.
2004:
February: A white powder determined to be the deadly poison ricin is found in an office of Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist. No one is hurt and no arrests are made.
August: FBI searches homes of Dr. Kenneth M. Berry, who founded a group to train medical staff to respond to biological disasters, as part of anthrax investigation. No charges are filed.
July 11: BioONE, a company founded by former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, begins fumigating the former headquarters of The Sun, the Florida supermarket tabloid that was the first target in the anthrax attacks.
July 12: Testing determines The Suns former headquarters is free of anthrax.
July 13: Hatfill sues The New York Times for defamation, claiming the newspaper ruined his reputation after it published a series of columns pointing to him as the culprit.
2005:
March 10: Sensor at Pentagon mailroom indicates possible presence of anthrax.
March 14: Alarm at second Pentagon mail facility also sounds possible anthrax presence. Post office in Hamilton, N.J., that handled anthrax-laced letters in 2001 reopens. Further testing determines no anthrax in Pentagon mailrooms.
2006:
March 27: The Supreme Court declines to block Hatfill’s suit against the Times.
April 11: It’s reported that Hatfill’s lawyers have questioned at least two journalists and are subpoenaing other reporters, seeking the identities of their confidential government sources.
Oct. 23: A federal judge orders The New York Times to disclose a columnists confidential sources as part of a libel lawsuit filed over the newspapers coverage of the 2001 anthrax attacks.
Dec. 2: The New York Times asks a federal judge to dismiss Hatfill’s lawsuit.
2007:
Jan. 12: A federal judge dismisses libel lawsuit filed against The New York Times by Hatfill.
Feb. 2: Explaining his ruling, the judge says a New York Times columnist did not act with malice when writing about whether a Hatfill was responsible for the 2001 anthrax attacks.
Aug. 13: A federal judge says five journalists must identify the government officials who leaked them details about Hatfill.
Oct. 2: Hatfill asks a federal judge to hold two journalists in contempt for refusing to identify the government officials who leaked details about the investigation into the attacks.
2008:
March 7: A federal judge holds a former USA Today reporter in contempt and orders her to pay up to $5,000 a day if she refuses to identify her sources for stories about Hatfill.
March 11: A federal appeals court blocks the fines.
June 27: The federal government awards Hatfill $5.8 million to settle his violation of privacy lawsuit against the Justice Department.
July 31: Bruce E. Ivins, 62, dies of an apparent suicide at a hospital in Frederick, Md., the Los Angeles Times reported, after being informed by the FBI that charges likely were being brought against him in connection with the 2001 anthrax attacks.
At some point in the conversation Hatfill mentions someone who ‘had to get a mental health screening’ to keep his medical license. Malone says, “Same strategy that they used on Meryl Nass.” Hatfill replies, “Oh I don’t like her. We’re not going to talk about her.” And Malone says, “I had a drop” and his screen glitches as if he momentarily lost the connection then he continues “They did the same thing to some other scientists.”
Much of their conversation is about Hatfill’s Ebola experience and Malone getting parachuted into Ames, Iowa with the active participation—wink, wink, nod, nod—of DTRA to facilitate the sale of the Ebola vaccine to Merck. They have a hearty laugh over Ebola symptoms and how ‘if it had been a respiratory Ebola, like they said, people would have lined up around the block for the nastiest vaccine.’
They lament that Covid has reduced trust in vaccines and how the WHO didn’t want to call H1N1 a pandemic of concern and with Ebola, they sat on it. Malone asks what happens now and Hatfill says it depends who’s in office. He talks about his ‘6 level solution’ where you have to fire six levels down at the CDC. This corresponds to Malone’s HHS reforms that included changing the law so anyone could be fired at will. They chat about who they’d give the gov’t agencies to—Lawrence Livermore?
Conversation snippets paraphrased:
Malone: So I’m giving a Florida talk about rapid response capability that goes from genome to vax, and how viruses can be engineered to be ethnically targeted. I mean, this isn’t controversial, right? But John (Luttell?) gets queried by the medical board and asks me for some sources. I say, “John, I am a little bit offended. I AM the goddamn expert. Here’s this and this and this and this and this.”
[Did he set up Kennedy on this? Kennedy wasn’t wrong, as shown in this 1998 Wired Magazine article on Israel developing an ethnic biological weapon that would harm Arabs but leave Jews unaffected. But Malone seems to have detonated his own bomb.]
Malone: Basically we have to burn down the house and rebuild it. Play right into the hands of our enemies.
Hatfill: I’m past worried. I’m scared.
Malone: Yeah. Things seem so FUBARed I despair. It’s bunker time. This was the highest calling. God’s work for the American people. In a selfless environment in which we were paid a fraction of what we would have made with big pharma. And we get no end of grief. You’re controlled opposition because you worked for the government.
Hatfill: Robert, here’s what we need. An infectious disease. I’m looking at you, your eyes are in the front of your head. My eyes are in the front of my head. Carnivores have eyes in the front of the head. Leafeaters have eyes on the sides of their head. We’ve got too many leafeaters in charge. We need action people.
Malone: Who’s Patton? Rick Bright? (they snicker) Leadership are sycophants. Peter Marx will say and do anything.
Hatfill: Fire half the FDA. Half the NIH.
Malone: I’m the Lieutenant but you’re the Colonel. What do we do, Colonel?
Hatfill describes a gadget the size of a credit card that you could blow into that tells you that you have a viral infection. You take a handful of drugs, done.
Malone: So your solution is: clean house, new tech, mini-patents.
Hatfill: And no one focuses on the local community. I’m asking, ‘How many dead bodies can you handle?’ With 40% mortality, you’re stacking bodies.
Malone: Now it’s time to get out the BIG excavator [they both chuckle] So you want decentralized capabilities.
Hatfill: Make your foundation the local authorities. If they can handle the medical surge and the local deaths, they can build on that, cities to counties, counties to states, states to Fed.
Malone: So who’s calling you? Bobby Kennedy? Trump? Or … [takes a while to remember the name] DeSantis?
Hatfill: Probably the IRS.
Malone: Peter Navarro [Trump appointee] wants me to move to Palm Beach but I can’t buy land there to house 20 horses.
Hatfill: Get your ass associated with Peter. I worship the guy. He gets stuff done.
And this is the guy—chortling over respiratory Ebola, despairing and bunkering down, prepping locals for 40% mortality that requires the BIG excavators—who calls the Breggins black-pilled. And why? Because they’re pointing the finger at the ones who “need an infectious disease” to keep their scare tactics going.
The ones who hide their antidotes in the coffee beans for the anthrax they knew was coming. The new brash Malone is playing to a Trump crowd and no longer needs the aw shucks gentleman-farmer facade. He’s back to the gold old boys club. He’s dropped the lion mask and returned to being a big cheese … a very, very stinky one.
And a comment on Sage Hana’s Newletter re: Hatfill:
IIRC, Hatfill was Bannon's first resident daily expert on "Pandemic War Room." Actually sitting at the panel desk in Bannon's War Room Capitol Hill townhouse. This went on for a time until Hatfill was called to other obligations, as Bannon put it. But what stood out, at least for me, was that Hatfill generally looked distinctly uncomfortable, as if he'd been directed to that position and did not want to be there. I don't recall that his comments were particularly illuminating about the then-emerging "pandemic." Finally, as this was happening I was also completely aware of Hatfill's anthrax background. So it was a little disorienting to see him presented as the Bannon "pandemic expert," and I do not recall that the anthrax matter was ever mentioned. Clean as a whistle.
NB I think Malone also showed up on those early War Room broadcasts, but it's a little foggy. After Hatfill.
Here’s The Road to Heaven is Paved with Good Intentions:
Should we critique someone's actions and words without going to motive? This question is applied to Robert Malone, using the Discrepancy Analysis of Daniel Negase and the research of Peter and Ginger Breggin, Saga Hana and Mark Kulacz.
and on Malone’s HHS reforms, this is The Psyops Cyclops:
Looks at the empire as a Cyclops, the eye in the pyramid. The PsyOps is when it’s the Cyclops in disguise. Examines Robert Malone through a conversation with the anonymous blogger called A Midwestern Doctor.
Thanks for this. I tried to watch the Tommy's Podcast episode, as I always prefer to get as close to the source material as I can. But, in this case, I've seen enough of Malone to know that his actions and his words clearly demonstrate that he is not at all what he purports to be as it relates to the freedom movement, and that when he speaks, we are being manipulated. I simply cannot listen to him talk anymore.
So Malone is okay with euthanizing children who are already sick/injured.
How thoughtful.