I'm going to post this comment from Matt Taibbi's thread that I couldn't fit into the video. I thought it was significant, although I told him I couldn't bring myself to call him Turd, much as I respect good manure ;-)
Turd_Ferguson replied to your comment:
As someone who grew up in both a Trailer Park and a Levittown, I will say thank you. This is spot on. The problem with Democratic politics now in this day vs forever ago when I grew up is that the Democrats are now the elitists. Republicans used to be the local Chamber of Commerce, and for the most part they still are. They don't care as much about the small businesses that were the backbone of America, but at least they gave them lip service. The Democrats still claim to be the party of the Unions, but Unions in this country are now too corrupt and too blind to see they are being sold out by the Bankers party now. That's the modern leftist. Spewing nonsense about who is a fascist and who is stealing their money while rabidly supporting the group that actually is fascist and is stealing their money. The irony of our new world order is so fascinating as to be both a tragedy and a comedy at the same time. Shakespeare never had such material.
White trash racism is alive and well and thriving here in Cork, Ireland. I am proud to be seen as a Norry.. I come from the north side of the city, where we are seen as scum by the more affluent south side, separated by a river, and a thickening police presence as you go further into the heart of that side of town. Thanks for the post. We have always been fascinated by all thing’s American here in Ireland. Brought up on a diet of American sit coms, movies, and Sesame Street, American life was seen as if something from another planet. The first gulf ‘war’ changed all of that for a lot of people, who had, like me, been disturbed to see Reagan antics with Thatcher, and the damage that caused, globally. That led to a period of dismissal of all things American as being bad, somehow stupid, but as always, you live, you hopefully learn, and when you see the scourge of cheap heroin and opioids that flooded the planet after the Afghan conflict began, decimate your country, county, neighbourhood, and family, and see the same things happen all over America, you come to realise yet again, as you have in the recent and distant past, that we are all suffering from the same problems. Appalachia, Ireland, UK, it doesn’t matter where you look. Systemic racism against our class, designed to keep us in our place, consumer, worker, dead, when we no longer meet the criteria for surviving. The words from the song at the end of the piece are so touchingly, timelessly heartfelt. They certainly touched me this morning. I’m so glad I didn’t adhere to that juvenile attitude towards American people, or any people belonging to a nation that waged war on people who could not defend themselves.
As you could tell my watching, the words to that song got to me too. For decades I thought of myself as having escaped, never to return. But now I find myself pulled back again and again.
I don't know if you've gotten to the Opioids episode yet but I certainly agree with you. There's only one war, empire vs. sovereignty, one side causes it and the other side fights each other. Thank you for finding my stack and watching! It was your response that gave me the courage to put the title of this playlist so bluntly and provocatively.
When I said your country being decimated by heroin and opioids , I was speaking of my own. I didn’t articulate it very well. The US heroin and opioid crisis has been highlighted worldwide. Constantly. But it is, and has been since the Afghan debacle began after the twin towers collapsed, a global epidemic. The countries bordering Afghanistan have a huge amount of addicts. It was/ is a disaster. My own family and extended family decimated from it. That song lyrics almost broke my heart. 🙏👏
Oh I did get that. I'm so sorry about your family. More than I can express in a text box. I am both trepidatious and can't wait to get to the other side of all of this death and destruction.
The times they are a changing. Of that I have no doubt. And I try not to live in fear. That is the primary tool used to manipulate us. We will, have to actually, prevail. Too many depend on us for that not to happen. God bless and thanks again.👏🙏✍️
I generally try to avoid the word “racism” these days because of the way the word is weaponized in our cancel culture, but I’ll agree that white trash racism is a real thing. When I moved from NorCal to Pensyltucky, I fell into it myself. Then, as I got to know my neighbors, I got to liking them. What’s funny about that is now I have trouble liking people like my former progressive self. So, I suppose white progressive do-gooder racism is a real thing, too, now. It seems there’s always the other side of the coin. The psychological operators sure know how to divide us.
Jack, I'm glad to hear from you! I was about to respond when I thought to check out who else you're reading, and that distracted me ever since. I read some CJ Hopkins, and then Tessa Fights Robots, and then I found that Margaret Anna Alice, who I read, just did an interview of CJ. It's here, in case you don't read her (I don't remember and don't dare switch to your page again or I'll never get this posted!): https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/dissident-dialogues-cj-hopkins.
I've also gone through the same process as you. For me that started with rejecting my provincial roots while I was still there and immersing myself in books. I was an insufferable snob in middle school! But I think I'm always a contrarian and defend whoever the people I'm around go against. In CA, I'm a born-again Appalachian. But in Cumberland, I talk about the stress and pressure that people in CA are under to keep up with the crazy cost of living. We're all in the same boat.
It's a fine line I try to walk but it's only when my liberal friends characterize all Trump supporters as racist that I think it's warranted to apply the term to them. Some, on Taibbi's thread, said that I was really talking about classism. But poor blacks and Latinos are given the benefit of the doubt. So it seems to be a generalization only about one race, but I'm open to other possibilities. I've only seen the word racism weaponized against whites.
When I talked to a friend about Ukranians being racist against ethnic Russians, she asked if they also were towards blacks, which I didn't know. It didn't seem to count if it was just Russians. So maybe we need to stop using the word or maybe define it without proper nouns and apply it more broadly. If 'we're all racist' as CRT claims, shouldn't that include everyone?
Once I realize that a word is being managed by the political elite, I get reactionary. (I'm a contrarian, too.) I recognize “race” (as it’s promoted today) as one of a multitude of manufactured divisions the archons use to sow discord and fear. Anthropologists mainly consider “race” as a baseless concept, but for the rest of us it is a nebulous ever-changing term fraught with danger and best avoided. Whoopi Goldberg’s recent 2-week suspension from The View for implying Jews weren’t a race is the most recent demonstration of how carefully the word is cultivated and managed to suit the purposes of power.
With regard to Ukrainian “racism” against Russians, your friend’s immediate reaction to ask about blacks is fascinating and telling. I read a recent editorial by Trudy Rubin of the Philadelphia Enquirer that was, like all of her recent editorials, a textbook demonstration of Ukrainian war propaganda, and when she noted that Ukrainians called Russian soldiers orcs, she made the practice seem like a clever or even sophisticated literary allusion rather than a “racial” slur. I wonder how Trudy Rubin squares that with CRT.
Nice to meet a fellow contrarian! That's interesting about Whoopi's suspension--it seems like the PC police are confused about whether Jews are a religion or a race. I think it's like a bicycle that's a car or a pedestrian depending on which gives it the right of way. If it's a religion, then Palestinians could gain all the rights of Jews by changing their name for God and undergoing a little genital mutilation. If it's a race, then the Torah is a doctrine of racial superiority forbidding intermarriage as the #1 crime.
Also interesting about Trudy Rubin and orcs. When The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe came out, I took my daughters to see it and was horrified! It had been one of my favorite series as a kid but I never got the Muslim hordes turned into dehumanized brutes and the Turkish delight and 'Peter' with his golden hair and blue eyes on the throne with the dark brother subdued.
I just posted one on CJ Hopkins, who I found from you! It will definitely get me in trouble with the PC police for suggesting that we're not giving Hitler and the Nazis enough credit ;-)
Tereza Coraggio, thank you for pointing me to your Whites & Wokes playlist.
Re “… the American Dream - that was also what Ben Franklin talked about when he said that the objective of the economy is to give someone a self-sufficient means of making a living”
The following were brought to mind – just dropping them here for future FYIs:
Thank you for listening to/ reading, not just the articles, but the comments, Julius. I'd forgotten how much wisdom there was in these threads, particularly from Kevin M here, whose comments you led me to reread by liking my response. And I haven't seen Jack Sirius lately but he's a contender for deep reader. He may still be lurking but not commenting since he's a self-described contrarian and only comments when he disagrees. So that may be a good thing!
I'm about to read ch. 5 this afternoon about Ben Franklin, so perfect timing! Please keep this comment handy and repost there when I do. It's interesting that the Grange movement--Patrons of Husbandry--during the Populist Movement emphasized that they were NOT agrarians. Since they were a farmer movement, it seemed like that had a special significance in the 1920's. So I'm very interested in digging deeper and finding out whether they had good cause, or if they'd fallen for another divide-and-conquer strategy.
I'm going to post this comment from Matt Taibbi's thread that I couldn't fit into the video. I thought it was significant, although I told him I couldn't bring myself to call him Turd, much as I respect good manure ;-)
Turd_Ferguson replied to your comment:
As someone who grew up in both a Trailer Park and a Levittown, I will say thank you. This is spot on. The problem with Democratic politics now in this day vs forever ago when I grew up is that the Democrats are now the elitists. Republicans used to be the local Chamber of Commerce, and for the most part they still are. They don't care as much about the small businesses that were the backbone of America, but at least they gave them lip service. The Democrats still claim to be the party of the Unions, but Unions in this country are now too corrupt and too blind to see they are being sold out by the Bankers party now. That's the modern leftist. Spewing nonsense about who is a fascist and who is stealing their money while rabidly supporting the group that actually is fascist and is stealing their money. The irony of our new world order is so fascinating as to be both a tragedy and a comedy at the same time. Shakespeare never had such material.
White trash racism is alive and well and thriving here in Cork, Ireland. I am proud to be seen as a Norry.. I come from the north side of the city, where we are seen as scum by the more affluent south side, separated by a river, and a thickening police presence as you go further into the heart of that side of town. Thanks for the post. We have always been fascinated by all thing’s American here in Ireland. Brought up on a diet of American sit coms, movies, and Sesame Street, American life was seen as if something from another planet. The first gulf ‘war’ changed all of that for a lot of people, who had, like me, been disturbed to see Reagan antics with Thatcher, and the damage that caused, globally. That led to a period of dismissal of all things American as being bad, somehow stupid, but as always, you live, you hopefully learn, and when you see the scourge of cheap heroin and opioids that flooded the planet after the Afghan conflict began, decimate your country, county, neighbourhood, and family, and see the same things happen all over America, you come to realise yet again, as you have in the recent and distant past, that we are all suffering from the same problems. Appalachia, Ireland, UK, it doesn’t matter where you look. Systemic racism against our class, designed to keep us in our place, consumer, worker, dead, when we no longer meet the criteria for surviving. The words from the song at the end of the piece are so touchingly, timelessly heartfelt. They certainly touched me this morning. I’m so glad I didn’t adhere to that juvenile attitude towards American people, or any people belonging to a nation that waged war on people who could not defend themselves.
As you could tell my watching, the words to that song got to me too. For decades I thought of myself as having escaped, never to return. But now I find myself pulled back again and again.
I don't know if you've gotten to the Opioids episode yet but I certainly agree with you. There's only one war, empire vs. sovereignty, one side causes it and the other side fights each other. Thank you for finding my stack and watching! It was your response that gave me the courage to put the title of this playlist so bluntly and provocatively.
When I said your country being decimated by heroin and opioids , I was speaking of my own. I didn’t articulate it very well. The US heroin and opioid crisis has been highlighted worldwide. Constantly. But it is, and has been since the Afghan debacle began after the twin towers collapsed, a global epidemic. The countries bordering Afghanistan have a huge amount of addicts. It was/ is a disaster. My own family and extended family decimated from it. That song lyrics almost broke my heart. 🙏👏
Oh I did get that. I'm so sorry about your family. More than I can express in a text box. I am both trepidatious and can't wait to get to the other side of all of this death and destruction.
The times they are a changing. Of that I have no doubt. And I try not to live in fear. That is the primary tool used to manipulate us. We will, have to actually, prevail. Too many depend on us for that not to happen. God bless and thanks again.👏🙏✍️
Hi, Tereza.
I generally try to avoid the word “racism” these days because of the way the word is weaponized in our cancel culture, but I’ll agree that white trash racism is a real thing. When I moved from NorCal to Pensyltucky, I fell into it myself. Then, as I got to know my neighbors, I got to liking them. What’s funny about that is now I have trouble liking people like my former progressive self. So, I suppose white progressive do-gooder racism is a real thing, too, now. It seems there’s always the other side of the coin. The psychological operators sure know how to divide us.
Jack, I'm glad to hear from you! I was about to respond when I thought to check out who else you're reading, and that distracted me ever since. I read some CJ Hopkins, and then Tessa Fights Robots, and then I found that Margaret Anna Alice, who I read, just did an interview of CJ. It's here, in case you don't read her (I don't remember and don't dare switch to your page again or I'll never get this posted!): https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/dissident-dialogues-cj-hopkins.
I've also gone through the same process as you. For me that started with rejecting my provincial roots while I was still there and immersing myself in books. I was an insufferable snob in middle school! But I think I'm always a contrarian and defend whoever the people I'm around go against. In CA, I'm a born-again Appalachian. But in Cumberland, I talk about the stress and pressure that people in CA are under to keep up with the crazy cost of living. We're all in the same boat.
It's a fine line I try to walk but it's only when my liberal friends characterize all Trump supporters as racist that I think it's warranted to apply the term to them. Some, on Taibbi's thread, said that I was really talking about classism. But poor blacks and Latinos are given the benefit of the doubt. So it seems to be a generalization only about one race, but I'm open to other possibilities. I've only seen the word racism weaponized against whites.
When I talked to a friend about Ukranians being racist against ethnic Russians, she asked if they also were towards blacks, which I didn't know. It didn't seem to count if it was just Russians. So maybe we need to stop using the word or maybe define it without proper nouns and apply it more broadly. If 'we're all racist' as CRT claims, shouldn't that include everyone?
Once I realize that a word is being managed by the political elite, I get reactionary. (I'm a contrarian, too.) I recognize “race” (as it’s promoted today) as one of a multitude of manufactured divisions the archons use to sow discord and fear. Anthropologists mainly consider “race” as a baseless concept, but for the rest of us it is a nebulous ever-changing term fraught with danger and best avoided. Whoopi Goldberg’s recent 2-week suspension from The View for implying Jews weren’t a race is the most recent demonstration of how carefully the word is cultivated and managed to suit the purposes of power.
With regard to Ukrainian “racism” against Russians, your friend’s immediate reaction to ask about blacks is fascinating and telling. I read a recent editorial by Trudy Rubin of the Philadelphia Enquirer that was, like all of her recent editorials, a textbook demonstration of Ukrainian war propaganda, and when she noted that Ukrainians called Russian soldiers orcs, she made the practice seem like a clever or even sophisticated literary allusion rather than a “racial” slur. I wonder how Trudy Rubin squares that with CRT.
Nice to meet a fellow contrarian! That's interesting about Whoopi's suspension--it seems like the PC police are confused about whether Jews are a religion or a race. I think it's like a bicycle that's a car or a pedestrian depending on which gives it the right of way. If it's a religion, then Palestinians could gain all the rights of Jews by changing their name for God and undergoing a little genital mutilation. If it's a race, then the Torah is a doctrine of racial superiority forbidding intermarriage as the #1 crime.
Also interesting about Trudy Rubin and orcs. When The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe came out, I took my daughters to see it and was horrified! It had been one of my favorite series as a kid but I never got the Muslim hordes turned into dehumanized brutes and the Turkish delight and 'Peter' with his golden hair and blue eyes on the throne with the dark brother subdued.
I just posted one on CJ Hopkins, who I found from you! It will definitely get me in trouble with the PC police for suggesting that we're not giving Hitler and the Nazis enough credit ;-)
Great videos accompanying the stack. Much appreciated.👏
Tereza Coraggio, thank you for pointing me to your Whites & Wokes playlist.
Re “… the American Dream - that was also what Ben Franklin talked about when he said that the objective of the economy is to give someone a self-sufficient means of making a living”
The following were brought to mind – just dropping them here for future FYIs:
• Agrarianism [Part 1] - Matthew Raphael Johnson
https://odysee.com/@InvincibleOrthodoxy:3/agrarianism-part-1-matthew-raphael:1
• Agrarianism [Part 2] - Matthew Raphael Johnson
https://odysee.com/@InvincibleOrthodoxy:3/agrarianism-part-2-matthew-raphael:7
and one thought led to another …
• The Agrarian Foes of Bolshevism - Oliver Radkey 1917
https://odysee.com/@WaltherMauser:b/The-Agrarian-Foes-of-Bolshevism---Oliver-Radkey-1917:2
• The New Germany Desires Work and Peace - Hitler 30/01/1933
https://odysee.com/@WaltherMauser:b/The-New-Germany-Desires-Work-and-Peace:2
onwards ...
Thank you for listening to/ reading, not just the articles, but the comments, Julius. I'd forgotten how much wisdom there was in these threads, particularly from Kevin M here, whose comments you led me to reread by liking my response. And I haven't seen Jack Sirius lately but he's a contender for deep reader. He may still be lurking but not commenting since he's a self-described contrarian and only comments when he disagrees. So that may be a good thing!
I'm about to read ch. 5 this afternoon about Ben Franklin, so perfect timing! Please keep this comment handy and repost there when I do. It's interesting that the Grange movement--Patrons of Husbandry--during the Populist Movement emphasized that they were NOT agrarians. Since they were a farmer movement, it seemed like that had a special significance in the 1920's. So I'm very interested in digging deeper and finding out whether they had good cause, or if they'd fallen for another divide-and-conquer strategy.