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Kathleen Devanney. A human.'s avatar

Reposting comment from Rumbe:

Thank you, Tereza. Honored to be included in this fascinating post.

There is always a 'why', yes. "To understand all is to forgive all." My mother was fond of saying this. And she would add, "because we can't understand it all, may as well skip to forgiveness."

As you know, I've been following Paul Wallis and Mauro Biglino and their understanding that the OT was not about God at all, but an infiltrating force that arrived here and took over. Talk about distortions!

Paul sees the new testament and the teachings of Jesus as quite separate and should never have been combined with the OT. He also thinks Jesus was a real guy (I do too) and that his teachings have been hijacked - well, what isn't?

On your larger point that it can't come down to a single person - fully and completely agree, though I don't think Jesus was saying that.

As Paul the apostle said (paraphrasing) God is where we live and move and have our being. This far more immediate understanding of God (which I suggest Jesus taught) is aligned with the Indian wisdom traditions. There is no separating out ourselves from that knowing. We can't get outside of it, so separating us from Creator is the greatest lie of all.

Always appreciate your provoking - in the best way - posts.

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Kathleen Devanney. A human.'s avatar

Another rich post, Tereza.

Very interesting that at a time of such unraveling and revealing, the topic of morality and moral codes emerge. Our culture has slowly made the subject quaint and anachronistic, as if how we behave in the world is subject to superficial changes, and not part of our being. (Pull up your bootstraps, work hard to achieve the American Dream morphs into Own Nothing and be Happy and both supposedly provide frameworks for being a good person.)

To take these instructions as examples of being a 'good' citizen, well we can clearly see both the folly and the hidden hand in that.

Without acknowledging the innate sovereignty of self (and responsibilities that come with) it's much like throwing out one's compass just before setting off into the forest. (Which is of course, exactly what 'they' want.)

If there really is not a 'self' then, what's the big deal if it becomes part machine?

So appreciate what your posts surface.

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