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Helene Belloni's avatar

Great analysis Tereza. Tell everyone it is not gut feeling. Speaking for myself and probably most others we are going off of past experience which gave us anti-vaxxers an advantage in the covid situation, but most of that past experience came with a price tag.

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Jim Reagen's avatar

Interesting idea, that we are one mind and are the dreamers. But then what's real? Feelings are real: vibrations. Some of these turn into thoughts and words.

You asked how we convince someone that their belief systems are wrong? That's where logic comes in. That's how we make people see. But if people don't want to listen there's nothing we can do.

Regarding this whole Desmet thing, I wonder if it even matters? It's just a distraction, something for us to debate about. But if I can allow myself an insult, my opinion is that his thinking is pure junk. He's just making things up to support his theory: it's a narrative. Why does he want us to believe we're all mechanistic thinkers, bad people to whom bad things will happen unless we turn to the glory of narratives? Something is very weird in all this. And why on earth is he being promoted so heavily when the flaws in his thinking are so transparent? Prime example: Desmet says that totalitarianism is “the belief that the human intellect can be the guiding principle in life and society”. That makes no sense at all. That doesn't fit with any definition of totalitarianism that I know.

Yes, strange people with money and power might believe in a tranhumanist empire that they can control, but this is certainly not "the masses." Most of us just want to be left alone to live our lives.

The question is, what do we need to do in terms of our choices for the rules under which we agree to live? We can't just all go off in our little encampments; if they succeed in monitoring and managing us all, then our encampments only go so far.

What do we do for the future? What should we focus on? I have a few ideas but nothing complete.

1. Respect informed consent to medical treatment with no penalties for refusal. If they can control our bodies then they can control us. If we can accomplish this then that stops many abuses.

2. Free press, free speech, free expression of opinions. Abolish any government interest in "misinformation": the government should not be in the position of sanctioning information. Social media companies should be treated as public utilities that may not censor opinions.

3. Individuals should be opaque to the government. The government should know as little about us as possible. Tech companies should know as little about us as possible.

4. The government should be transparent to, and accountable to, the voters.

As technology becomes more powerful it become more able to be weaponized. This is what we're seeing now with GOF viruses. We have to come to terms with the weaponization of technology and with it's abuse as it's used to manipulate individuals and society.

Then there's the question of money. We have to come to terms with the idea of the golden rule: he who has the gold makes the rules. But what if a very few people have nearly all the gold? Money is power: let's not shy away from this as it's a basic truth. As we allow money to accumulate in fewer hands, we also necessarily allow power to accumulate in fewer hands regardless of the laws that we, the people, decide on, unless we have massive checks to that power. How do we do that?

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